URGENT- Help ME PLEASe - FLUKES????

[Stuginski]

Hi fellows...

I need some help. I have two butterfly fishes in my qt (a falcula and one longnose), they are fine and eating. Yesterday I dosed praziquantel as preventive and today the fishes are presenting several dots over the fins.

Is this normal after prazi treatment ???

Thank you ...sorry for my terrible english

Hails from Brazil

D.

 

[MrTuskfish]

Dots sound more like ich than flukes. I'm sure they aren't from the PP treatment. A pic whould help. Ich is white and looks like a grain of salt.

 

[caribfan]

Good Morning,

First off, your english is better than a lot of the Americans I hang around, so don't worry about that.

Second, a picture would be helpful, if at all possible. Prazi won't help with C. Irritans, commonly called marine ich. Depending on what the spots/dots look like, it could also be Lympho.

If you have flukes, prazi is the correct treatment. One surefire way to determine if it is flukes is to Freshwater dip one or both of the fish. Many people are anxious about this method, but if your fish are relatively healthy and strong, you'd be amazed at how long they can be in Freshwater. Additionally, another benefit to using this method is that the parasites are immediately removed from the fish and some relief is provided to the animal.

If you can, reply back with some pictures so we can better diagnose.

 

[Stuginski]

Thank you guys!
I'm trying to take a good picture but butterflies are always swimming around...my pictures seems like a butterfly spectrum

I fought against ich in other times and to me this one seems different...there are a few white tiny balls only in fins...this tiny balls seems to be almost out of the fin.

I will try to take a picture because I don't have vocabulary to explain this

I will treat for ich and oodiniun with chloroquine in next week because some folks said that chloroquine decreases the efficacy of praziquantel...so I will wait a little more.

thank you for the tips...i will try to take a picture this night!


Hails from Brazil

D.

 

[alprazo]

I agree with chloroquine over copper. As for the combo. The metabolism studies were not done in fish. Prazi has a very high first pass metabolism. That means, after ingestion, the liver destroys most of it before traveling to the heart and being pumped throughout the blood stream. The chloroquine is metabolized in the liver too. The liver, in a way, works extra to get rid of The chloroquine. It is thought that this will cause less prazi to make it past the liver.

One way to avoid this issue is to inhale the drug. So if the prazi is absorbed through the gills, and it likely is, this interaction is not a problem.

Probably more science than needed.

 

[alprazo]

I agree with chloroquine over copper. As for the combo. The metabolism studies were not done in fish. Prazi has a very high first pass metabolism. That means, after ingestion, the liver destroys most of it before traveling to the heart and being pumped throughout the blood stream. The chloroquine is metabolized in the liver too. The liver, in a way, works extra to get rid of The chloroquine. It is thought that this will cause less prazi to make it past the liver.

One way to avoid this issue is to inhale the drug. So if the prazi is absorbed through the gills, and it likely is, this interaction is not a problem.

Probably more science than needed.

 

[caribfan]

From your second description, it sounds more like lympho than anything else. I'm terrible at pictures too. If it is lymph, good water quality and excellent nutrition are all you need to do.

 

[joaovieira]

Yes agreed, your last description is more suggestive of Lympho. In that case cupper will not help (possibly will even worse condition), just good water, healthy diet with low stress levels.