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I use about 6 mil a day for my 55 gallon reef. Sometimes I forget which is no big deal, I just add the normal amount. Somedays I get a white bacterial film on the glass, but most days I don't. My tank is primarily softies and a few LPS, no SPS.
 
Do you think perhaps I should cut it back to .5ml for a while and see what happens?

I'm reluctant to give recommendations having no experience with it, but I'd speculate that that dose would be fine as it is much less than the acetate dose that many folks deliver with limewater/vinegar combinations.
 
I think that 1ml per 20 gallons is about the end result of the folks using vodka. That is about my limit. I would encourage you to read the thread discussed by Randy and Mark. I also forgot about Marks large algae bloom discussed in the thread. I believe his result was the same as mine. It didn't hurt anything, but was a concern in terms of oxygen levels.

I also agree with Randy that low nutrient levels could become a limiting problem for desireable elements of our tanks such as corals. This has not been my experience as my corals have always been fine in terms of apparent health and growth. I would add that I house about 20 fish in the system and feed heavily. That was one of my incentives to start using vodka.

I should add, however, that, my tank is only sps, a few acans and clams. I do not house soft corals. I have seen way more concerns about lowered nutrient levels and using alternative food sources in soft coral tanks.

Lastly, you are trying something that is experimental. In fact, a lot of what we do in our tanks is experimental even when touted as absolute. The fact is no two tanks are the same, ever. There is so much biology and diversity in our systems that when you add varied husbandry routines you can never say that what happens in one person system will work exactly the same in another persons tank. This doesn't get stated enough in forums such as Reef Central. Instead, we just argue over absolutes that can never be proven.
 
Well I found a dosing regimend and I will be dosing .3ml per day in my 75g for the first week. Over 3 weeks it will increase to about 2ml. I guess we will just have to wait and see :P. Also I would like to point out that I also used to use vinegar with my kalk and never had any problems. I dosed the vineger per Randy's recommendations. Towards the end of my kalk dripping days (before my big mishap with over dosing), my tank was doing great. I hope to get back to that soon.
 
After reading more, I am thinking of being VERY conservative with this stuff. Especially in my situation where my nitrates are undetectable. I think I am going to stay well below the full out dosing recommendations of some here. I dont want to get myself in trouble with this.
 
I started 2 days ago- do you think 3ml for a 160 (prob. 120 g. after rock displacement) per day is enough- softies, clam, lps, some sps
 
I'm starting with .3ML a day, I bought a tiny bottle for $1.50. I'll let everyone know how it goes and if my corals color up more.
 
I am into week 4 of vodka dosing. FO 72 gal
Started with 80 ppm nitrates and 3.0 phosphates

1st week 1ml per day
2nd week 1.5 ml per day
3rd week 2 ml per day
this week 3 ml per day

Last Sunday morning, Nitrates at 40, phosphates at 1.5

It appears that my cyno is disapperring off the rocks and less on the glass.

My plan is to go up to 4ml next week. So far as advertised. I will reserve my opinion on this for a few more weeks.

Oh and BTW - My skimmer is pulling out some nasty smelling skimmate since I started all this.
 
My plan is to go up to 4ml next week. So far as advertised. I will reserve my opinion on this for a few more weeks.

My guess is that you are pretty close to the limit. You may see a small bloom at 4ml. Just watch it closely. I doubt it would be enough to cause a huge bloom. If you use a filter bag, inject the 4ml in there. The bacteria will colonize the bag more than the water column.
 
Well, we'll see. I'm going slow and am not convinced as of yet. No problems so far. We will see what test results show in the next two weeks. Fish look fine. eating like crazy. Remember, I have no LPS or SPS. Just fish. I'm curious about that white film that some see when they are at the limit. Havent seen it yet. My skimmer is going nuts and as of tonight my ORP, which never gets over 300, is at 318. Interesting.

Will keep you all posted.

Boomer, If your listening, I've heard Randy's take on this, do you have an opinion? Would love to here it, good or bad. :D
 
Redfish, thanks for your input. Actually, I have already decided that I'm stopping at 4 ml per day, regardless of my testing results. If my trates and po4 don't decrease any lower than what they are, I will consider the experiment, just that. An experiment.

After all. my fish seem very happy right now. :D
 
For what it is worth, I have never gotten the white film or bacterial strands. I just got a bloom in the water column. I do try to focus the bacterial growth in the filter bag. That probably helps both with the bacterial bloom and export. The filter bag is post direct fed skimmer.

I am pretty sure you will continue to see a reduction in your nitrates and phosphates. It is hard for me to believe that the current nutrient levels are sustainable by daily feeding with that amount of carbon being added to the tank. I am not surprised your ORP is rising either.

As I stated earlier, I have a pretty good fish load and feed heavily. I test 0,0 for nitrates and phosphates. I use about 5-8ml per day in my 225.

Now if I could just get rid of the Dictyota.
 
Redfish- how long did it take for you to get to 5-8 ml/day, and how long before you saw the decrease in nitrates? Thanks, Dawn.
 
I use about 6 ml per day in my 55 gal with no issues at all. I have a buddy who uses a shot glass worth every other day or so, and he hasn't had issues either. I would think as along as you have a good skimmer and surface agitation the risk of a bacteria bloom can't be that much as long as the O2 levels stay up.
 
I worked my way up over about three weeks. I didn't ever really have any measurable N or P so I couldn't test to see what was happening. I did, however, occasionally have a small amount of algae. I no longer have any type of algae in the tank except the dreaded short red alage and Dictyota both of which seem to be impervious to high quality water, especially the Dictyota.

What I expected was to see either some change in the corals(I hoped not) or a bacterial bloom. What I got was a very light hazy bloom in the tank that lasted about 12 hours at about 10ml.

I have found over time that somewhere between 5-8ml is the 'right' amount that will not cause a very light bloom. Right now I am at about 7ml.

I believe that I would have more obvious bloom in the water column if I did not use the filter bag. I started using the filter bag after reading of another account hear on RC. I embarrassed that I do not remember who it was. They deserve proper credit as it seems to work very well.
 
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