Ventralis Anthias...Long-term Success???

Beautiful fish! I am wondering the same thing ,any success? Liveaquaria.com lists them as "expert only" and Marinedepot/live.com won't even give an "arrive alive" guarantee ,saying they are "delicate and expert only".
 
They won't usually starve to death in 14 days. A good long QT period is a must. They will need to be trained to eat and get accustomed to being in a tank.

This is a species that needs to be kept in cooler water under dimmer light. Any aggressive fish housed with them will keep them hidden and stressed out.

It is one species that really needs to kept in a species specific display with an owner that is able to provide many many small feedings through out the day.

Carl
 
i've had 2 in my 55 for close to a year now... they are beautiful fish but very reclusive. they are housed with 2 highfin cardinals and a couple of gobies...
they eat anything i feed them frozen mysis, brine and marine cuisine...
about 6 months ago one got quite a bit more dominate and developed a lot more color than the other and it's fins grew twice as long, i'm presuming it turned male...

here's a couple of pics of mine, not the best but they are hard to photograph... lisa

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I tried keeping a small shoal of 1 male and 6 females and they slowly dwindled away over the course of a year. Like a couple people have already pointed out, the key to keeping these fish is putting them either in a species only or a very passive community tank. Active fish will spook them into hiding and they will be reluctant to feed which is a problem since they need to eat constantly through out the day.
 
I don't think we should confuse activity with aggressiveness.

Mine are out and about frequently now that they are in a tank with a lot of active fish.
 
Wow, this is a toss up.

What lighting do you guys have? I have one 250watt MH, will that be "too bright"?

Also, Just Dave - what other fish are in the tank?
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=11093098#post11093098 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by just dave
I don't think we should confuse activity with aggressiveness.

Mine are out and about frequently now that they are in a tank with a lot of active fish.

this has been my experience as well....mine went in with some other anthias, and initially was shy and reclusive, but found their niche within the group. also, I went from 10k to 20 and that seemed to help as well....
 
400w MH
Midas Blenny
Pink Streaked wrasse
Black Leopard wrasse
Potters Leopard wrasse
Spotted Mandarin
Hi Fin watchman goby
Hector's Goby
Rainford's goby
Firefish
2x Carpenter's Flaher wrasse
2x McCosker's flasher wrasse
2x Filamented flasher wrasse
 
Any chance they could make it with a majestic angel if they were added first and had a long time to acclimate and become comfortale in the tank first?
 
IME with the hawaiian ones:

should only be kept with each other or small fish (gobies, blennies etc)
they need cooler temps (70-75 tops). I would recommend them for a pipefish or seahorse tank definitely. those are the tankmates i think people will have success with.

I believe Boyle was catching them in the Cooks for a while and those ones did well (he's a top notch collector) but the ones coming in lately i hear aren't as healthy/bent or infected from the pinning.

The real problem is getting them already acclimated and eating. If you can do this, along with a great QT set up, you should be able to keep them with some active fish. I wouldn't put them in with angels though, big or small :)
 
The ones from Hawaii are no longer known as Ventralis anthias ( Pseudanthias ventralis hawaiiensis ) they are now known as Hawaiian Long-fins ( P. hawaiiensis ) and they ones I have ,as well as the ones Cateyes has, are P. cf ventralis-1 and are from the Marshall Islands. Also called the Japanese Long-fin. They look very much like P. ventralis , as do the Coral Sea Long-fin ( P. cf ventralis-2.) With the exception of P. hawaiiensis, they all look very similar and one day they may be classified as P. ventralis.
I've not knowingly had any of the Coral Sea Long-fins but the Japanese Long-fins from the Marshalls do much better 'n the Pacific Long-fin (P. ventralis) from the Cooks like zemuron said.
 
JustDave and /or Cateyes what temperature do you keep your tanks at ? What is your tank low[ in winter] and high [in summer]?
 
Do they need alot of room? I have a 30 with a fuge thats strictly a pipefish aquarium. Would they work in here or do they need more swimming area?
 
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