canadianeh
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do vermetid snails move around, or they fixed to rocks?
Vermetid snail conclusion
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mcgyvr
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fixed..
canadianeh
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i think mine grows back after I mutilated and remove the rock partially. Is it possible that they are embedded on the rest of the surface and just waiting for the right moment to arise?
LowHangingFruit
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I've rid my rocks of vermetid snails by dipping them in a separate container with a mixture of tank water and hydrogen peroxide. This will also kill any algae. Depending on the type of coral, it can make it through this dip as well.
FishN00b83
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You can control the population by keeping the tank really clean. Blowing out the rocks with a baster every week during water changes will make the population a bit larger at first, but getting everything out that feeds them will eventually drop the number. I had them really bad, they were literally over every square inch of my live rock, now I don't have any, just the empty tubes everywhere. I also left my tank fallow for a while during an ich outbreak but I had them down to almost nothing before the tank went fallow.
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Mr. Brooks
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Just to clarify for those who don't know. There are several types of vermetids. The type you need to worry about are the red/purple ones. They stay small, they reproduce quickly, grow fast and they can multiply in the thousands. Impossible to kill manually. Don't even try. It's a waste of time. Best solution is to start over. Sterilize everything. There's a microscopic stage in their life cycle. So without sterilization and QT of everything wet, you risk reintroduction.
xREEFINaintEZx
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Befor I get to plauge proportions, has anyone tired a laser? I'm looking for reasons not to Shell out 500$ on one, but between the aiptasia and snails I might go for it. What do you guys think?
ReefPharmer
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You aren't going to be able to get the vast majority of them. W the laser you may be able to get the ones facing you but they grow under rocks, on back sides of rocks, inside rocks ... you get the idea
hotelbravo
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I have a video of my Goldentail Moray eating Vermetid Snails. He literally breaks them off and chomps them down. I posted it on one of the big Facebook groups. Idk how to post it on here
Rich1Reef
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My rock is outside in the snow right now. Then it's going to sit through the summer. Then an acid wash. A long dark RO bake. Then dried again for aquascaping. Then cured.
There is nothing going in my tank ever again that I don't want to be there.
I'm even setting up a separate fish and coral quarantine tanks.
I just hope it's all worth it. Hopefully my new tank is filled and ready by December.
2wheelsonly
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I love this...you can read constantly about these things about how they are harmless and just "bother" corals. Then once you get them you read a statement like this that basically says "throw thousands of dollars of corals and livestock away and start over".
Wrong answer even if you're right. Sorry, there has to be a way because no matter how slick you think your process is for preventing pests...it's bound to happen. I just refuse to believe reeftanks around the world can get a pest so bad it nukes the tank.
But props to the people in this thread mentioning these vermatid snails kill corals, they absolutely do and it infuriates me when people say they are harmless.
The last person that told me that was someone at a frag swap...annoying overweight greybeard know it all type that wore some silly knights of columbus hat with minions cartoon pins in it. Probably tries to pick up chicks on ham radio every night in between feedings on his 75 gallon algae infested softy tank of 25 years.
Jonviviano
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I, like many am suffering from vermetid snail problems. I think this thread should be stickied to the top so we can work togther to come up with a solution.
iced98lx
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I noted in another thread that high doses of LaCL repeatedly appeared to kill them based on casual observation. My theory is the precipitate causes their feeding response (webbing out) and then kills them. Not an in tank solution sadly.
I have a Yellow Wrasse (full grown, 5+ inches), a red stripe wrasse, a scopas tang, several crabs, several shrimp, tuxedo urchins... none of which appear to eat them.
Mine are being grown over/around by many of my SPS corals, but perhaps those snails are dead and it's just the tubes?
I have a Yellow Wrasse (full grown, 5+ inches), a red stripe wrasse, a scopas tang, several crabs, several shrimp, tuxedo urchins... none of which appear to eat them.
Mine are being grown over/around by many of my SPS corals, but perhaps those snails are dead and it's just the tubes?
smatter
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I'm a little overweight :sad1:
Mr. Brooks
MASVC Member
There are types that you can live with that are relatively harmless. Then there's the type that I battled with for 5 or 6 years. Sure I could've admitted defeat and just lived with it, but I didn't want to look at or work on a tank jam packed with thousands of red/purple vermitids on everything. Including pumps, plumbing, skimmer, heaters EVERYTHING. That was my choice. I will say, wait until you see a plague before tearing your tank down. If there's only a handful in your tank, you probably don't have the type you need to worry about. If you have hundreds or thousands, don't do what I did, I'm telling you, I wasted well over a hundred hours of my life that I'll never get back. I would've saved a ton of time if I had just started over to begin with. Also, I was able to save most of my coral and fish. I cut frags and Bayer dipped all of them. I rinsed the fish in several buckets of new tank water. It worked for me. I QT EVERYTHING wet now, including snails. I am vermetid and ich free.
