Vodka with softies?

[Randy Holmes-Farley]

its mention in the thread that this method reduses phosphates.Is this true?

That is why people dose it: to reduce nitrate and phospahte.

This thread has more info:

http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=288714

 

[Ralistin]

This is for the guy earlier in the posting with the bottle of vodka and doesn't know what to do with it. SEND IT TO ME!

 

[eleodes]

i chase vodka with a siphoned mouthful of tankwater.

 

[Ochi]

No bacteria don't have mitochondria, they don't really have any membrane bound organelles.

But I'm curious about this method...hmm

 

[Amphiprion]

Technically, they don't even have organelles, unless you consider ribosomes to be an organelle of some sort (I don't). Seems like a viable way to reduce levels. I just do not like the thin margin of error.

 

[StupidsReef]

Do bacteria have mitochondria? [/B]

From what I understand about Mitochondria it is the very life source for any and all life on earth. Including any type of bacteria.
So your answer would be YES they do.

 

[petermai]

i'm not sure if i'm misreading or misunderstanding and looking for some clarification...so the whole sugar and vodka addition to the water will lower nitrate in the short run or will this actually encourage the "beneficial" bacteria to thrive to process nitrate into nitrogen gas for the long run?

i have a major nitrate problem...i'm using the aquarium pharmaceutical's "saltwater master" test kit and i tested the water tonight and it's giving me a really odd reading, well, the rating for nitrate on the test card is odd to me overall. the test's telling me that my nitrate level is at 160ppm while all of my fishes are happy and my zoo's colony are doing fine.

i now have about a foot cube's worth of chaeto in my sump/refugium. so my question is that should i let nature take its course or should i use the additives to cut the nitrate problem down for the short run to give the chaeto time to catch up?

 

[Randy Holmes-Farley]

so the whole sugar and vodka addition to the water will lower nitrate in the short run or will this actually encourage the "beneficial" bacteria to thrive to process nitrate into nitrogen gas for the long run?

It drives bacterial growth. If those bacteria are skimmed out or otherwise removed, then it is a permanent export of nutrients. If they grow into mats that will later die and degrade, then it is temporary.

I prefer macroalgae to bacteria, since it is easier to localize and control, and does not consume O2, but both can work.

 

[Hobster]

After reading through the other lengthy threads, I am not able to arrive at a what a good starting dosage of Vodka would be?

Anyone have a safe/very conservative staring amount per 50 gals??

 

[zimmy1979]

One shot for me..one shot for my tank..one shot for me...

 

[Randy Holmes-Farley]

After reading through the other lengthy threads, I am not able to arrive at a what a good starting dosage of Vodka would be?

Anyone have a safe/very conservative staring amount per 50 gals??

In terms of the carbon load delivered, a few mL vodka per 100 gallons of tank water per day is a similar carbon loading to what folks use who are dosing vinegar with limewater.

So 1 mL per day seems a reasonable place for you to start. I'd add it in the AM after the lights come on. More conservative would be lower.

 

[Hobster]

Thanks Randy.
Sure doesn't take much. I have some Vodka in the closet from who knows what year. We sure won't ever drink it.

 

[Randy Holmes-Farley]

:thumbsup:

Let us know what happens.

 

[grim]

What about using Calcium Gluconate as a carbon source?

grim

 

[Randy Holmes-Farley]

Calcum gluconate, not Seachem's calcium polygluconate? The former may be fine. It adds calcium and alkalinity, and may drive bacteria as well. The Seachem product is more complicated, and I do not think the fate of the polygluconate is well known.

 

[ReeferAl]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=6558552#post6558552 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by StupidsReef
From what I understand about Mitochondria it is the very life source for any and all life on earth. Including any type of bacteria.
So your answer would be YES they do.

Actually, as posted earlier, bacteria do not have mitochondria. In fact, mitochondria have alot of similarities to bacteria. Some believe that mitochondria originated by some form of bacteria becoming intracellular symbionts in primitive cells. The intracellular bacteria slowly lost their ability to live independantly and now exist only as intracellular mitochondria. Bacteria themselves have the same sort of metabolic enzymes and structure within their cytoplasm as occur within mitochondria.

Allen