wade's 220

cooterbrown

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last weekend i upgraded my coral farming operation and my dt up a couple sizes. got a really good deal on a 220 drilled for a closed loop with an oceans motions and a hammerhead for the return which will feed the 150g frag tank and 55g refugium. soon i will add a 40b upstairs for shits and giggles.

Hardware:
im running an asm g6 protein skimmer in a 125g baffleless sump. a hammerhead pump doing all the returns on the 3 systems and an jehmco pool pump on the oceans motions. i run hallides on all my systems.

sand i used what ive always used with great success, its quikrete fine white silica sand i buy from ace hardware for 10$ per 80#. i know alot of people disagree with using silica sand but ive used it in every tank ive owned with zero side effects and no algae at all.

rock i have around 200# of marco, pukani and tongan branch.

live stock, ill probably miss a few fish so lets see.
hippo tang
sailfin tang
purple tang
2 yellow tangs
yellow eyed kole tang
tomini tang
vlamingi tang
bicolor blenny
scooter blenny
lawnmower blenny
lyre tail chromis
sunrise dottyback
2 bangai cardinals
tomato clown (hosted in a rainbow bubble tip)
percula clown (hosting in a 12" squamosa hah)
2 occelaris clowns (in a long tentacle)
pink spot goby
egineer goby
6 line wrasse
harlequin tusk
harlequin sweetlips
yellow tail damsel
velvet damsel
blue devil damsel

i think thats it i probably forgot a few
im going to add a clown tang i think just to see if i can have success. ive had great luck with finicky eaters.

in the frag tank i have a couple damsels that got big and mean. in my experience the damsels that have flatter faces are way more aggressive than the pointy faced ones.

any ways i just wanted to share this build and have a place to document progress. took 3 days to get everything set and replumbed, because before it was 3 seperate systems. to store all the fish and coral during these three days i employed a rarely seen tool in the aquarium trade..... 13$ walmart kiddie pools. i probably had well over 10k$ worth of live stock intrusted in it. and it made it. i didnt sleep at all during these 3 days though lol but with this build i finally succeeded in having more gallons than square footage in my house. 1000 gallons in an 800sqft house!:bounce1:

heres pics!!




 
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Dave.M
 
is that really your screen name? a walmart kiddie pool? i think your a disaster waiting to happen.

I don't really get what you're getting at but this hobby doesn't have to be expensive. I've been extremely successful for 3 years on a beer budget. There was about 10k$ in just fish in that pool and only lost two because some one stepped on them. Don't judge because I'm cheap.
 
Well the oceans motions quite running. Or I really don't know that it was running optimally ever. So I took it apart and te wet side magnet was leaching rust. Emailed OM and that's 65$ just for a little drive shaft with magnets. Oh well.
 
Critical? actually I am doing you a favor in suggesting that risking 10k of fish as you say in a thin walmart pool for several days is not a very bright idea. What if it broke? how smart of an idea do you think it would have been then if you lost everything? You are very lucky it did not break. Risking the lives of that many fish is just reckless. Look at the picture of the pool you posted. the walls are barely standing up. You said you did not sleep for 3 days. I don't spend alot of money either but I keep my animals as safe as I can using common sense.
IF you are saying you don't have enough money of take care of all the live stock you have then you should sell some of them and use that money to get equipment that is not rusting into the tank etc. Just pointing out for YOUR benefit (not for mine) that you are not making very good decisions from what you have posted.
 
Critical? actually I am doing you a favor in suggesting that risking 10k of fish as you say in a thin walmart pool for several days is not a very bright idea. What if it broke? how smart of an idea do you think it would have been then if you lost everything? You are very lucky it did not break. Risking the lives of that many fish is just reckless. Look at the picture of the pool you posted. the walls are barely standing up. You said you did not sleep for 3 days. I don't spend alot of money either but I keep my animals as safe as I can using common sense.
IF you are saying you don't have enough money of take care of all the live stock you have then you should sell some of them and use that money to get equipment that is not rusting into the tank etc. Just pointing out for YOUR benefit (not for mine) that you are not making very good decisions from what you have posted.

Don't worry about my financial ability to care for my animals. You judge based on a kiddie pool and somehow by my screen name. You don't have the slightest clue about me. I have 3 other tanks that I could have setup in a pinch if I needed to move te fish into. The kiddie pool worked great. I'd gradly use it again. It did exctly what I wanted it to do and it did what it's designed to do... Hold water.

As far as the oceans motions leaking rust into the tank, it's normal for them to need to be replaced. And news flash rust doesn't hurt anything. *** do you think GFO is. It's still a 500$ piece of equipment. I don't go cheap on husbandry and equipment. I do go cheap when it comes to temporarily houseing fish.

So you can ride you high horse the **** out of here because I don't need your just mental attitude ruining my positive vibes. Ad for Christs sake your picture is a cat! I'm supposed to take you serious? Please
 
You talk about having 10k worth of livestock and use a 13 dollar walmart pool.
I hope you do use it again and learn your lesson. You obviously don't care very much for your animals.
What kind of reaction did you really expect people to have- oh you are so smart saving money. My neighbor bought the 170 dollar walmart pool, it lasted one day, that night the entire bottom split and it was dry in the morning.
Also according to everything i have ever read in any venue says that metal rust is toxic and can kill everything in your tank- so you need to check your facts.
Don't worry Mr. CooterBrown I will not be posting to you thread again.
 
You talk about having 10k worth of livestock and use a 13 dollar walmart pool.
I hope you do use it again and learn your lesson. You obviously don't care very much for your animals.
What kind of reaction did you really expect people to have- oh you are so smart saving money. My neighbor bought the 170 dollar walmart pool, it lasted one day, that night the entire bottom split and it was dry in the morning.
Also according to everything i have ever read in any venue says that metal rust is toxic and can kill everything in your tank- so you need to check your facts.
Don't worry Mr. CooterBrown I will not be posting to you thread again.

Iron is toxic to a tank your correct. 1000s I reefers actually introduce rust to they're tank. It's GFO. Incase you thought that stood for something other than granulated ferric oxide there you go. It's rusted iron particles. There's your fact check smart ***
 
Anyways back to the point of the thread.

Here's the 150g frag tank and sump on the other side of the wall. The only thing you can't see is the 55g Refugium above the sump. It sucks that my hvac is in the middle of my fish room because it makes it hard to get good pics of the whole system
And ignore the mess this is just after I turned the lights on the for the first time. Right after this I cleaned for 2 days lol
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so all rust is rust huh?
Read this-
Coral magazine JAN/FEB 2012 article Reefkeeping 101
for novices in the marine aquarium hobby
"Not so cheap in the long run" page 113 according them they are poisonous metallic substances."will also poison the aquarium water"
in "this" instance of rust they are talking about poor quality stainless steel.

Hope this helps. thanks.
 
I feel i don't need to read it to respond im guessing your referring to impellers on marineland freshwater powerheads, they were made of an manmade alloy containing chemicals from the bonding process leaching toxins, he has a magnet with iron in it made for a marine tank, and as proof of you being full of misinformation
You talk about having 10k worth of livestock and use a 13 dollar walmart pool.
I hope you do use it again and learn your lesson. You obviously don't care very much for your animals.
What kind of reaction did you really expect people to have- oh you are so smart saving money. My neighbor bought the 170 dollar walmart pool, it lasted one day, that night the entire bottom split and it was dry in the morning.
Also according to everything i have ever read in any venue says that metal rust is toxic and can kill everything in your tank- so you need to check your facts.
Don't worry Mr. CooterBrown I will not be posting to you thread again.
I do believe this Is again
 
quikrete fine white silica sand sounds like a great option...anyone else have any input on this? Any phosphate issues etc?
 
quikrete fine white silica sand sounds like a great option...anyone else have any input on this? Any phosphate issues etc?

It's a great option. It's cheap, clean, and is heavier than normal sugar fine so it doesn't blow around. It's quickly inhabited by all kinds of critters an ive heard rumors or it killing sand sifters but I have 2 gobies, 3 conchs, and a sea cucumber that haw lived in it for 2 years. I've neer had a phosphate problem. I've run it on every tank I've had and every tank I've set up. The longest running is 3 years and its awesome. Alot of people tell me I'm stupid for using it but I love the stuff
 
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