Wavebox 6212 questions

[vnwind]

Hi Roger

Does wavebox 6212 use 18v or 24v?

Well i have 4x6105 and a wavebox. I never notice the voltage chip on each voltage adapter until today because one of mine 6105 stopped working (actually two now :-( ). I always thought they are the same so i may have to do cross plugin. So i looked at all adapter and this is what i see 2x24v and 3x18v

The two 6105s that are still working is on 18V. One does not work on any 18 or 24V, the 6212 only run on 18V, the other one was working on 18V and now it is dead too when i tried the 24V

Please help me understand what is going on.

Thanks

 

[rvitko]

Waveboxes use 24V, the 6105 uses 18V. In general the change in voltage will not kill a pump, a 6105 on 24V will be noisy and if it was jammed it could cause a failure but there has to be something else wrong besides the voltage. Have you verified it isn't just a dead power supply? The most likely culprit is that at 24V and with a jammed drive unit the pump would use more power than the power supply can provide (50W max) and this would cause the power supply to overload and fail.

 

[vnwind]

Hi Roger

How do you tell if it is a dead power supply. the small red light is still light up

What should i do to diagnostic this?

 

[rvitko]

You either need another known working pump to try it on or a voltmeter and then you will check the tip for the output in DC voltage, it should be within 10% of the jumper rating.

 

[vnwind]

I test the volt on the DC adapter and here is the result

The one with 18V chip report 30.2V and this does make power head and wavebox run


Both with 24V report 8 - 9V so i guess they are dead. Where can i find a replacement?

Thanks

 

[rvitko]

Don't use the one putting out 30V, if this is correct, it will kill the pump in short order. Are you in the US?

 

[vnwind]

Maybe it is my voltage meter. I tested the other running wavebox and 6105 in my DT tank which for the 24V adapter, it return 43V while the 6015 with 18V return 31 V


What is going on? Any chance my vol meter is broken. I am in Canada but i have sent Xenia several emails and they have not response to me yet for couple days now :-(

 

[rvitko]

That doesn't sound right, I occasionally see a power supply that puts out higher voltage but to have several that do, tells me either they all have some damage possibly from moisture or water or the voltmeter is broken. I would try to call Xenia. Unfortunately, I am out of these power supplies at the moment and there is not much I could do.

 

[vnwind]

I am measuring the DC right? Also can i use the power adapter from Tunze 6055 to run the 6015 because i measure it and it outputs the same around 30V

 

[rvitko]

Yes, DC. The meter has to be wrong, A 6055 transformer should not put out more than 24V. A 6055 transformer can only handle 20W of draw and a 6105 uses 28W so it will not safely run the 6105, the transformer will burn out.

 

[vnwind]

call Xenia and noone pick up the phone. This is so frustrating.

I should take a picture of my tunzes collection and send it to them

 

[boboxx]

yes I had the same issure, Phill seem to be short on these new 12v and 18V clips

 

[vnwind]

so all i need is to replace the clips or the whole adapter?

 

[rvitko]

On the dead ones the whole adapter must be changed, I think the voltage readings are wrong, you basically have as many high voltage power supplies as I have seen in 3 years of working on this type of pump/power supply so something has to be wrong with your meter.

 

[Bryan]

Are you measuring the power supply under load.? ie motor connected. Power supply will test high until it is under load.

 

[vnwind]

It is confirmed it was my volmeter that give the incorrect reading, however i stll have 2 of the power supplies dead :-(.

 

[vnwind]

My cheap volmeter did not do a correct reading due to low battery. After i replace, i got the 18V correct reading. However my other two power supplies are dead, only give about 5V. Where can i buy these? I need them

 

[rvitko]

Please get in touch with Phil. Worst case scenario, you can buy an off the shelf laptop power supply, I have found that they are commonly available with 19V output and you need one with a 2.5 by 5.5 mm tip, it should be tip positive.