wavebox question

CMcNeil

CMcNeil

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i just got a tunze wavebox and hooked it up on my new 150 gallon tank.i havent been able to get a good wave from it yet and i wondering if you could help me on the settings.as of now the best wave i got was around 3/8" i know this box can do better.my tank is 60" x 24" x 24" and i have a dart for a return pump and a dart on a closed loop(dont know if this is usefull info or not).i havent touched the driver and have only played with the controller.
 
Hey chris
Turn the driver to max and set the 7091 to the lowest setting let it run for awhile the increase the controller little by little.
 
checkinhawk,

It really is just a matter of tweaking the dial, I have 5' by 16 inch wide and I can get about 2 inch wave at the surface. Keep in mind the extra width will make a big difference and you will get a lot less at the surface but the motion at the bottom where it counts will be the same.

Regards
Graeme
 
It's very sensitive.

Make a very small change and then wait 5-10 cycles before making another.

When making coarse corrections I watch the wave at the end with the Wavebox and the Wavebox pump should turn on just as the wave is reaching its peak.

Sometimes I can also get clues as to which way to adjust the dial based upon whether the "lull"or null at the center of the aquarium is shifting to one direction or the other with the wave cycles.

I remain impressed by the motion throughout the tank created by the Wavebox.

Paul
 
yeah i understand what you are saying about the peak of the wave and the timing of the pump,i just havent been able to find that sweetspot yet.i get a nice wave started then lose it trying to get it bigger.more fine tuning needed,so back to work i go.
 
After writing my previous post I thought I would see if I could tweak my timing for an even bigger wave.

Of course, I violated the "if it ain't broke don't fix it" rule and then spent the next 15 minutes getting it back to where it was before I messed with it (OK, maybe I got it a little better).

I would really like to see Tunze use a 10-turn pot on that controller to give us better control.

Maybe someone who has a 60" tank can post the resonant frequency of their tank to give you an idea of where to start.

On my 72" 155g bowfront it is just over 35 cycles/minute. Your 60" would be faster.

Paul
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=10680900#post10680900 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Lutefisk


I would really like to see Tunze use a 10-turn pot on that controller to give us better control.
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i agree 100% lutefisk,i am having my controller modded with one as we speak.i dont care if it voids the warranty.i just plugged in a modded controller from a tank with the same dimensions and got a 1"+wave on the first try.
 
checkinhawk,

What is the value of the existing pot?

The problem with the existing pot is that just a hairbreadth adjustment makes a huge difference.

It would be interesting to make an estimate as to the range of wavelengths the Wavebox controller will allow. I'd guess that it is a lot broader than the 4-10 foot range of most of their customers. IF that was the case it should be helpful to use a resistance range that encompassed only the useful range of the wavebox which should allow for easier adjustment. But, I haven't done any testing to determine the existing adjustment range of the controller.
 
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im not sure about the exsiting pot,i just know we plugged his controller to my wavebox and with no adjustments we got a 1" wave instantly.his knob was alot more forgiving than the stock controller and you could turn it more without losing the wave.
 
Lutefish, the existing pot is a 50k, 3/4 turn. the adjust range is so coarse that just a touch makes a huge difference, easily 2-3k. As you stated a 10 turn pot would give much better control. I know for a 5' tank the range is about 50 times too much. I would be interested to see what the setting is for an 8' tank, on my 5' it is right around 11 o'clock very close to the beginning of travel.
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=10687732#post10687732 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by wsurf4me
Lutefish, the existing pot is a 50k, 3/4 turn. the adjust range is so coarse that just a touch makes a huge difference, easily 2-3k. As you stated a 10 turn pot would give much better control. I know for a 5' tank the range is about 50 times too much. I would be interested to see what the setting is for an 8' tank, on my 5' it is right around 11 o'clock very close to the beginning of travel.
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My 6' is right around 11 o'clock too.

Would you pull out a timer and count the number of wave peaks you're generating in a minute?

I'm close to resonant at about 35 cycles per minute.

It would be interesting to get the cycle rate for 4, 8 & 10 foot tanks.

I'm with you. I love the product but it seems like the entire adjustment range for a usable range of tanks must be within 10-20 degrees. If that was the case a resistor that would result in the fastest feasible cycle-rate in series with a pot that at full resistance would provide the slowest practical cycle-rate would make a big difference. You would use the entire pot to adjust through the usable range rather than what appears to be a very narrow, challenging to adjust range of the pot. (Make it a good old ten turn to adjust with a jewlers screwdriver and we'd really be set) :)

Paul
 
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I just checked this morning, I'm getting 38 cycles a minute on a 5 foot tank.

I would be very interested to see how many cycles on a 8 foot and where the dial is set.
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=10691135#post10691135 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by wsurf4me
I would be very interested to see how many cycles on a 8 foot and where the dial is set.
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In my 2.4m tank (roughly 8 ft) the correct setting is about 3 minutes past 12. Starting with the pointer dead on 12:00 oclock gives about 1/2 the final wave but is a good place to start.

Steve
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=10693542#post10693542 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Lutefisk
Chickenhawk,

Your video does a nice job of showing the movement at the bottom of the tank.
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check out what this thing does when dialed in right :)

 
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