What´s the best zoanthid food?

[A. Grandis]

I need to know what´s the best brand of invert food to give to Zoanthids.
What have you tried?
What doesn´t work?
What do they really love when you add to the tank.
How to add (pumps off?)?
I don´t have time to make any food preparations.
Need to know the best stuff.
Serious invert food.

Thanks a lot,
Grandis.

 

[xmjxflipx]

im guessing light is the best food, but i do supplement sometimes for all my sps, lps and zoas.........i use coral frenzy........and i dont usually turn off the pumps and the skimmer.....and do broadcast feeding method..........

 

[A. Grandis]

Ok, besides lighting...
Thanks for the post! Anyone else?
Grandis.

 

[YoungReefer06]

I have tried several things to speed up growth. I have be able to work with literally hundreds of types of zoas and protopalys. The protopalys will eat many foods, the only food that I have been able to get a feeding response from for the zoos is Hikari Micro Pellets. I have heard that urchin eggs and rotifers will elict a feeding response.

Sorry for the short response but I am in a boring lecture right now, and the prof is begining to look at me as if wondering what "notes" I could possibly be writing right now on what he is talking about...

 

[A. Grandis]

Well, at least you´re not sleeping...

Thanks for the post!

What is the type of Hikari Micro Pellets that you´ve tried and they liked?

I´ll try here and see what they do.
When you get time please write more about your experiences feeding the Zoanthids in general, would you?

Anyone else?
There must be something out there that the zoas would be crazy for...

Grandis.

 

[zoadude]

try dropping an assortment of frozen foods into a food chopper such as krill, squid, mysis, brine shrimp, silversides and mincing them together then target feed your palythoas and protopalythoas with the pumps off. The zoanthus will filter feed off of the liquified parts in the water column.
You can also just get the frozen Rod's or something similar, but you will spend much, much more than if you buy the individual foods and mince them yourself.

 

[A. Grandis]

Thanks a lot zoadude:

The problem I have with the mixed foods, besides the time and mess, is that there is too much liquid and junk in some of the foods, like for example the frozen brine shrimp and so on... When you get a good solid food and mix in the blender it comes apart and will be exposed. You feeze and add to the tank... you need to wait the thing to melt so it can sink. Big mess... we loose lots of usable nutritious particles in the water, feeding the skimmer.

I am looking for some real good "clean" nutritious foods that we can feed the zoas. I would say that about 60% or more of the frozen brine shrimp packs are junk stuff. Sorry, but that´s what it is...

I believe that direct feed is the way to go, instead to absorb from water. Just my personal tought.
I don´t mean to be rude, my friend. :strange:

Does anyone agree with me?

Grandis. :thumbsup:

 

[YoungReefer06]

Yeah, the frozen food store bought or homemade is not good for most zoas I try with. This is a link to what I have used. I was experimenting and found a sample bag of this stuff laying around so I soaked the sample bag in like 1 tsp water, then feed to the zoas with a small plastic pipette. The food sinks right down and lands on the polyps, which then move the food towards the mouth and consume the pellet.

 

[zoadude]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=15646433#post15646433 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by A. Grandis
Thanks a lot zoadude:

The problem I have with the mixed foods, besides the time and mess, is that there is too much liquid and junk in some of the foods, like for example the frozen brine shrimp and so on... When you get a good solid food and mix in the blender it comes apart and will be exposed. You feeze and add to the tank... you need to wait the thing to melt so it can sink. Big mess... we loose lots of usable nutritious particles in the water, feeding the skimmer.

I am looking for some real good "clean" nutritious foods that we can feed the zoas. I would say that about 60% or more of the frozen brine shrimp packs are junk stuff. Sorry, but that´s what it is...

I believe that direct feed is the way to go, instead to absorb from water. Just my personal tought.
I don´t mean to be rude, my friend. :strange:

Does anyone agree with me?

Grandis. :thumbsup:

Not a problem. You may be right. After looking at my zoa frags again I can see where the daily feedings of these foods might actually be doing more harm than good.

 

[A. Grandis]

Hehe. They´re beautiful!!!

Anyone else giving the "junk food" to your zoas?:strange:

That´s what I wanna know guys!!!:thumbsup:
Thanks for the pictures zoadude. Your contribution to the thread is beautiful!!
If you get more pictures and details about the tank to add to the topic, please give us.

Grandis. :bounce1: :bounce3: :bounce2:

 

[killagoby]

Cyclops-Ezee.

 

[A. Grandis]

Thanks Killagoby!
I think that´s a good one.
I believe that we need to get them wet before add to the system. They are frozen dry, right?

Grandis.

 

[usol]

I have used Rogers Reef Food it is just awesome, I actually had the opportunity to see him make the food and it is a wild mix of all kinds of fresh fish squid etc etc etc that he himslef blends it all together and sells it. I have seen the craziest fish and corals eat his food. Hope this helps it is my 2 cents as they say

 

[zoadude]

What makes frozen foods junk? Frozen mysis, brine shrimp, silversides, squid and the many other frozen fish/coral foods available? Much better then dried foods for sure. They don't need any preservatives like are added to many dried fish/coral foods.
Just don't understand your reasoning.
The liquid parts from the frozen/thawed supplies the filter feeders with nutrition and the large pieces feed the grabbers.
Possibly you have HEARD something along the way about frozen foods in the negative and like many of the other things we hear and take as fact this has become a way for you.
I myself have HEARD things throughout my lifetime and before testing these things, whether reef related or not, have drifted through life BELIEVING them until finally putting to the test and finding the truth.
Unfortunately, I am sure there are many, many other things that I probably believe to be true that are not in all reality.

 

[zoadude]

as far as loosing much to the skimmer and much not sinking, I myself shut off my flow, target feed, allow 30-45 minutes for everything to feed and turn everything back on. Never had a problem yet and pretty much all my protos and palys close up over the foods and I know the zoanthus are getting their share as they grow fast.
No, you can't just dump a blend into your tank and leave it at that. You will loose a lot to you sump/skimmer/reactors. You should have a prefilter before all this anyway that should be changed out often.

 

[evoracer]

I broadcast feed cyclopeez and DT's or Reef Nutrition oyster eggs, along with dosing WM's Amino Acids to my zoa-heavy frag system. Paly's I spot feed PE Mysis.

 

[Timanator]

I dont feed anything other than the Hikaru pellets for the clowns. And my zoas grows pretty explosively for the most part.

 

[A. Grandis]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=15653816#post15653816 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by evoracer
I broadcast feed cyclopeez and DT's or Reef Nutrition oyster eggs, along with dosing WM's Amino Acids to my zoa-heavy frag system. Paly's I spot feed PE Mysis.

Hi evoracer:

Where can I get the "WM´s" Amino Acids. What does the AAs do to the zoas? Any articles or more info on that? Thanks a lot!! I want to learn more about that..

What is "PE" Mysis? Is that a brand?

Grandis.

 

[A. Grandis]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=15653937#post15653937 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Timanator
I dont feed anything other than the Hikaru pellets for the clowns. And my zoas grows pretty explosively for the most part.

What´s the type of Hikaru pellets you use?
Thanks,
Grandis.

 

[A. Grandis]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=15653542#post15653542 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by zoadude
What makes frozen foods junk? Frozen mysis, brine shrimp, silversides, squid and the many other frozen fish/coral foods available? Much better then dried foods for sure. They don't need any preservatives like are added to many dried fish/coral foods.
Just don't understand your reasoning.
The liquid parts from the frozen/thawed supplies the filter feeders with nutrition and the large pieces feed the grabbers.
Possibly you have HEARD something along the way about frozen foods in the negative and like many of the other things we hear and take as fact this has become a way for you.
I myself have HEARD things throughout my lifetime and before testing these things, whether reef related or not, have drifted through life BELIEVING them until finally putting to the test and finding the truth.
Unfortunately, I am sure there are many, many other things that I probably believe to be true that are not in all reality.

Excess of nutrients in the system.
Please don´t write agressive.
I didn´t mean to make you upset.
If I did, I´m sorry.:rollface:
This is just a hobby. Relax.

Grandis.