what classifies something as aussie?

[teen]

im new to the whole acan thing, so sorry if this was posted already.

i just bought this frag of what i was told is an aussie acan. its a nice piece, and i dont doubt the seller, but im just wondering, what makes it an "aussie" acan? are there any physical characteristics that set it aside from other acans?

heres a pic
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thanks

 

[southernsong]

no well to know for sure, but with the current corals available it likely is aussie. I'd trust the seller if ya can. There are several indo colors that are old to us that I haven't seen called aussie yet so that's a good thing I guess.

 

[airinhere]

Australia was off limits to exporting coral for several years and just this Summer, it finally opened up a flood of corals onto the marketplace.

After years of collecting, the Indo reefs are getting pretty sparse for really nice colored corals it seems. (Judging by the corals that come from those areas.)

Australian reefs however, are chokablock full of brightly colored corals that are eagerly collected by the current generation of reefkeepers.

Maybe this time we will do a better job of maintaining the corals we are all entrusted with than the previous generation did. They had to struggle against the odds as the technology to keep corals alive was discovered. Nowadays, we dont really have any excuse if our corals die.

 

[GreshamH]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=10744959#post10744959 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by airinhere
Australia was off limits to exporting coral for several years and just this Summer, it finally opened up a flood of corals onto the marketplace.

It openned up spring/end of winter It was closed for what, over a decade to coral exports.

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=10744959#post10744959 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by airinhere After years of collecting, the Indo reefs are getting pretty sparse for really nice colored corals it seems. (Judging by the corals that come from those areas.)

What we see is not what is actually on the market. You're forgetting every other country pays more then the US for corals (well, except Canada). He who pays, plays. EU and Asia both pay far more and typically upfront thus renderring them the cream of the crop.

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=10744959#post10744959 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by airinhere
Maybe this time we will do a better job of maintaining the corals we are all entrusted with than the previous generation did. They had to struggle against the odds as the technology to keep corals alive was discovered. Nowadays, we dont really have any excuse if our corals die. [/B]

Previous generation? When was the split? I've been reefing for over a decade and I don't consider myself apart of a group that failled to keep corals. Heck, the only thing I had problems with was Acros back then. Everything else grew like wildfire. The only thing technology really helped us improve was SPS keeping. There has never really been any problem with LPS, which is why they've always been labelled "starter corals".

 

[airinhere]

the split was November 14th, 2002. (JK.)

I thought the first shipment from Australia came in on June 3rd?

The Indo comment is more a bad on the colors we get, Enough Tan, fleshy colored corals! I love softies, but cringe when I see tanks full of unappealing lumps of tan. (delicate, beautifully formed and blandly colored.)

What I am refering to (the current attitude with many reefkeepers) is how it has shifted from just keeping corals for their own personal pleasure and has grown (not always in a good way) to include fragging and minor inroads of farming corals. Plus with the advent of internet options like Reef Central and others, reefkeepers from all over the world are able to communicate with other reefers. This communication has rapidly increased the general exposure to good, helpful reefkeeping information and thusly to (I would hope) more long lived corals.

And since the corals are still alive, and the reefkeeper knows they have a value and the reefer knows where to unload the corals for money, many corals are making their way into new homes and extended lives when someone wants to get out of the hobby.

This is not to say that every new or current reefer will pass on their livestock when or if they decide to 'get out', but the ability is there and the decision to pass their livestock on is a realistic option.

Likewise, not every reefer from days gone by would throw away their livestock if they had to break down their tank, but there were not nearly as many options available a decade ago.

Only time will tell if the current group of reefkeepers will use the tools available to them to kep their corals alive even after the reefkeeper has finished with them.

I sure cant think of very many decade old corals that are gracing anybodys tanks.

And I would bet they would be amazing to see.

 

[GreshamH]

I thought the first shipment from Australia came in on June 3rd?

Nope, long before that Jan or Feb if my mind serves me right. Think Duncan craze and Duncan price drop. The price drop was after several shipments had all ready been tenderred.

 

[RandyO]

Got my first Aussie Acans in May.

 

[Chads29]

I am going to go out on a limb and tell you that not all vendors are selling Australian Acan's that claim to be. I have not seen many people trying to sell Indo Acan's off as Aussies but I have seen it; mostly on ebay with one vendor who doesn't sell a lot of acan's because most people who have been watching acan's over the past few years can see a difference in the colors of the corals (not that all Australian Acan's are colorful). If you like the coral and you are willing to pay for it because you like it that is great if you want to be more specific ask the vendor to send you a copy of the CITES permits that state the coral came from Australia as they issue permits with corals coming into the country. It wasn't 6 months ago and everything on Ebay was listed as Japanese so it is always buyer beware...

 

[teen]

i got it from a member on this site. my first time dealing with him and he gave me a pretty good deal. its not that i doubt him, i was just wondering, other than origin, if there are differences between an aussie and say an indo.

 

[mxett]

I know I'm Aussie :lol:

Our reefs are HUGE! We have plenty to share:beer:

 

[GreshamH]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=10753140#post10753140 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Chads29
if you want to be more specific ask the vendor to send you a copy of the CITES permits that state the coral came from Australia as they issue permits with corals coming into the country.

Unless the vendor was the importer of record, they will not have any CITES docs nor have access to them. Only the importer needs those and they do not send them onto the buyer, unless the buyer is out of the country.

basicly you're stuck with the vendors word Guess that's where the Vendors Feedback Forum comes into place.

 

[edandsandy]

Great question.
who are we supposed to trust!