What eats micro feather dusters?

a1amap

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I have what appear to be and have been described as "micro feather dusters". In the sump they were fine but they since spread to my main tank. I remenber reading that there was a fish, crab, or shrimp that eats them. I searched but could not find the info. I beleive it was corsis or a six line wrasse.

I don't want to eliminate them just control the spread they are now on 3 rocks in my tank. They were cool untill they spread.

Any info would help. Does anyone have the real name?
 
My six line wrasse always kept them under control for me, as well as a Pseudochromis fridmani, which happens to be my all time favorite fish.
Doug
 
Nice I could live with both of those guys
In case you were wondering as I was; its common name is Orchid dottyback

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Sedentariate Polychaetes/Featherduster Worms... On Parade!

Anamobaea onstedii, the Split-Crown Feather Duster, family Sabellidae. Radioles in a radial arrangement, bilaterally symmetrically marked. Soft tubes generally unexposed. Found solitary or in small groups. Belize and Bonaire pix.
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Bispira variegata, Variegated Feather Duster Worms, Family Sabellidae. Tropical west Atlantic. 3/4- 1 1/2" in size. Parchment tubes usually hidden below grade, in which they rapidly retreat if disturbed. Here in the sand in Bonaire.
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Bispira brunnea, Social Feather Duster Worms, Family Sabellidae. Come in whites, pink, purple and brown-banded varieties/colors. Groups in the Bahamas and Cozumel.
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Filograna implexa, Berkeley 1828 N. Sulawesi.
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You want these spiffy worms in your marine system, reef? Sure you do. They're generally hardy, easy to keep, interesting and gorgeously beautiful! Besides, they're cheap (relatively for marine livestock) and maybe even free, gratis with "live rock". You can buy or possibly collect them yourself. These families are worldwide in shallow tropical to temperate seas. What to look for? First of all, vital signs! Are their crowns in evidence most of the time? Do they quickly respond to motion, shade, touch by complete retraction? For "leather" and sandy type tube worms is the tube complete? That is, is the base end closed, the outer margin clean and the body of the tube not torn? If possible get worms with a good portion of the rock, etc. they were attached to/with.

The general co-factor questions apply> What are they feeding? How often? How? What is the specific gravity of the system water the specimens are in? How long have they had them? Where are they from? Such worms hail from the Philippines, Hawaii, Mexico, Florida, California... I shy on the side of buying "newer" stock; to avoid the detrimental effects of probable starving since collection.

Environment:

Tube and Fan worms do fine in high quality natural and synthetic water of low to medium organic load (aging), any given reasonable range of temperature. Higher salinities are appreciated as per most invertebrates kept.


Vigorous water movement is helpful for aeration, excretion, circulation of food items... Placing them in a couple of inches of fine silica or coral sand, or betwixt rock/coral rubble is generally acceptable.

Territoriality is a non-question as long as sufficient food, circulation and gaseous exchange is available.

Introduction/acclimation is similarly simple. If avoidable, do not lift specimens from the water into the air. The water supports their bodies and trapped gas can be a problem.

Predator/prey relations: some invertebrates and fishes can and may eat your worms. Wrasses, some basses, triggers, shrimps, crabs et al. will try out most anything as you know. Healthy worms are quick to pull back into their tubes, but... Oh and they themselves will greedily filter out any particle, plant, animal or mineral of appropriate size which brings us to

Foods & Feeding:

Daily to a few times weekly offering of live (brine shrimp nauplii, rotifers...) or prepared foods (store bought or home-made) is recommended. Clam "juice", other "meaty" foods frappe'ed in a blender or smooshed with spoons or other tools applied in the general area (with a syringe, turkey baster device...) with most all particulate filtration switched off for the duration (@ an hour?). Other times and places I've plugged appropriate set-ups for intended such systems, including the use of timers or temporary switches to cut down on fouling from feeding...

A very nice examination of the structure and behavior of feeding in these two families can be found in most invertebrate zoology texts. See Barnes below.

Reproduction:

Those faithful readers of these wanna be formula survey pieces might have noticed an oversight re repro. Nay, twas intentional. These worms have bizarre and varied modes. As a boy in the P.I. I was familiar with a practice of collecting certain "native" marine foods with baskets, timing our efforts with the tides and lighting. Some time later, it's dawned on me we were collecting (and eating) epitokes of polychaete worms. Believe me, I'm not making this up; some species basically break in half, the rear portion forming it's own "head", swims off and reproduces in the upper water column.

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I HAVE HAD THE TINY RED DUSTERS COME AND GO, WITH THE NUTRIENT LOAD FOR YEARS. WHEN THE WATER CLEANS UP, THEY RECEDE. NO PROBLEM FOR ME. EVEN IF MY SUMP LOOKS ALL FUZZY. OR SOME TANK ROCKS. I THINK THEY WILL EXPLOIT A RICH ENVIRONMENT AND THEN SELF REGULATE THEIR POPULATION TO A LEAN ENVIRONMENT. I CONSIDER THEM A LITMUS TEST FOR WATER QUALITY.
AND... THEY ARE FREE!!
 
I had tiny red ones that a Peppermint Shrimp, Im guessing, cleaned out. I wish he wouldn't have. I liked them. The reason i say Im guessing is cause the Shrimpys the only thing I changed.
 
Just want to eat the ones in the main tank. I like them in the sump. 1 feather duster worm in a bed of zoas looks cool. 1 zoa in a bed of feather duster worms, not so nice. I know they are a good thing. I got them from Dave's old tank. I didn't nuke the rock because there was so much life in and on the rock. I figured the food I am using has a lot of particulate matter that is the perfect size for filter feeders. I feed them frozen every other day and nori on the odd days. Not too much but my hippo is an eating/pooping machine. I feed the fish early in the day so they have a chance because she is so fast and a glutton.
 
Well the feather dusters won't over grow the corals. I've never seen that happen in either a tank or the wild. I'm seen TONS of Christmas tree worms here and lots of other feather dusters of all different types. Some dusters were in the mangroves, some in the sea grass, some in open water, some in rocks, and then the Christmas trees all over many corals.

Before I came I thought Christmas tree worms only grew on one type of coral... I haven't learned an awful lot from my professors, but have made so many observations which I will never forget. Cross your finges for me that I am able to dive the reef before we leave.

Jon
 
Re: What eats micro feather dusters?

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=11676559#post11676559 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by a1amap

I remenber reading that there was a fish, crab, or shrimp that eats them.



Undulated Trigger.
 
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