cooltankmate
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hi, newbie here 
where to buy and how to use?
where to buy and how to use?
what exactly is garlic extract food?
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kraze3
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Well I bought mine over the net. If you have a good LFS store around they may have it. I bought Kent Marine Garlic Xtreme. Its just garlic in liquid form. You add to food then feed the food to your fish. I have also heard of people buying garlic at the local market and feeding their fish that but I have never done that. Garlic is supposed to fight against ich and be an appetite stimulant but these arent facts
Garlic Link
http://www.reefkeeping.com/issues/2005-10/sp/index.php
Garlic Link
http://www.reefkeeping.com/issues/2005-10/sp/index.php
Freed
It's what it's
Yes, quite the snake oil and old wives tale. Spend your money on something useful and don't buy into the cure all ich philosophy. There's no proof that it stimulates feeding and there is also no data or evidence that it cures ich. The best prevention for ich is to QT everything wet for 4-6 weeks before placing in main system. That way you won't have to worry about running out and buying garlic when the ich appears. Hypo works wonders for ich in a QT.
Some garlic references for :reading:
http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=541977
http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=546776
Steven Proââ"šÂ¬Ã¢"žÂ¢s Article
http://www.reefkeeping.com/issues/2005-10/sp/index.php
http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=541977
http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=546776
Steven Proââ"šÂ¬Ã¢"žÂ¢s Article
http://www.reefkeeping.com/issues/2005-10/sp/index.php
ericsnook5
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my impression from reading lees links are that she does not say that garlic is a cure for ich. It may or may not augment the treatments that we would normally do for ich, but it probably won't hurt. If it helps then great. One of those links is also just more of a "manual" on how to make the garlic juice to feed the fish with.
Whether garlic helps or not is something to be determined, so typical/traditional treatments for ich are still needed, but garlic may help quicken the response (if it helps at all).
Please correct me if I'm wrong.
Eric
Whether garlic helps or not is something to be determined, so typical/traditional treatments for ich are still needed, but garlic may help quicken the response (if it helps at all).
Please correct me if I'm wrong.
Eric
ericsnook5
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sorry in the link above I make an assumption that lee is a woman. Please forgive me if I'm wrong. I didn't actually intend to put "she" in the response.
I tend to present the information sometimes without much commentary. So it would seem that what I've written before may have been contradicted by the links I provided, Freed.
You are not wrong Freed. I believe garlic is not a cure for Marine Ich (Crytpocaryon irritans). Garlic juice is not a treatment for Marine Ich.
Garlic juice (allicin) has been found to be an anti-microbial agent. It is how the garlic plant defends itself against secondary problems resulting from physical damage. When damaged the garlic plant secretes allicin amongst a whole host of as-yet not studied chemicals. Those chemicals help the plant resist microbial invasions.
But at the site of the plant, the concentration is very high. In the aquarium and in the fish foods, garlic juice is very dilute. Excess garlic juice is bad for the fish, so there is an 'overdose' scenario. How much good it does or doesn't do is still unknown. But I do know for a fact that it doesn't cure any outbreak obligate parasite common to marine aquarium fishes.
Some say that garlic juice has a 'decoy' effect. By that it is supposedly meant that the free swimming Theronts may swim to the garlic juice instead of a fish. But, there's a lot of speculation. Those that think it worked may have just found the fish that survived the outbreak developed enough immunity and the parasitic strain weakened enough so that all could live in harmony for a while.
The number of posts in this Forum state problems and either ask should I use garlic or I have been using garlic and still it isn't cured. It's one of the greatest and biggest feints in our hobby. I would not normally care about this, except while aquarists are trying to cure their fish with garlic, their fish are suffering and getting worse such that the real cure isn't being administered.
Having said all this, I use garlic. I use it to tempt a fish into eating. I don't know that it really stimulates the appetite like some aquarists believe, but I do believe it causes some kind of 'irritation' (for the lack of a better word). It's like causing an itch on the fish! There is sometimes an increase in 'activity.'
I also use fresh garlic juice (prepared as described in one of the links) as a minor anti-microbial agent. I don't like using antibiotics all the time and for mild infections, the garlic juice, best water quality, and proper nutrition usually gets the fish past the problem. Would they get past the problem without the garlic juice? Probably!
LEE is a male!
You are not wrong Freed. I believe garlic is not a cure for Marine Ich (Crytpocaryon irritans). Garlic juice is not a treatment for Marine Ich.
Garlic juice (allicin) has been found to be an anti-microbial agent. It is how the garlic plant defends itself against secondary problems resulting from physical damage. When damaged the garlic plant secretes allicin amongst a whole host of as-yet not studied chemicals. Those chemicals help the plant resist microbial invasions.
But at the site of the plant, the concentration is very high. In the aquarium and in the fish foods, garlic juice is very dilute. Excess garlic juice is bad for the fish, so there is an 'overdose' scenario. How much good it does or doesn't do is still unknown. But I do know for a fact that it doesn't cure any outbreak obligate parasite common to marine aquarium fishes.
Some say that garlic juice has a 'decoy' effect. By that it is supposedly meant that the free swimming Theronts may swim to the garlic juice instead of a fish. But, there's a lot of speculation. Those that think it worked may have just found the fish that survived the outbreak developed enough immunity and the parasitic strain weakened enough so that all could live in harmony for a while.
The number of posts in this Forum state problems and either ask should I use garlic or I have been using garlic and still it isn't cured. It's one of the greatest and biggest feints in our hobby. I would not normally care about this, except while aquarists are trying to cure their fish with garlic, their fish are suffering and getting worse such that the real cure isn't being administered.
Having said all this, I use garlic. I use it to tempt a fish into eating. I don't know that it really stimulates the appetite like some aquarists believe, but I do believe it causes some kind of 'irritation' (for the lack of a better word). It's like causing an itch on the fish! There is sometimes an increase in 'activity.'
I also use fresh garlic juice (prepared as described in one of the links) as a minor anti-microbial agent. I don't like using antibiotics all the time and for mild infections, the garlic juice, best water quality, and proper nutrition usually gets the fish past the problem. Would they get past the problem without the garlic juice? Probably!
LEE is a male!
ericsnook5
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sorry leebca
I didn't mean to imply anything. I hadn't actually intended to put she or he. But I did. I'm very sorry anyway.
Eric
I didn't mean to imply anything. I hadn't actually intended to put she or he. But I did. I'm very sorry anyway.
Eric
