SteveJakubiec
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What trigger would you recommend for a 125g size wise? Please give a few options. Its a standard 125g
What Trigger for a 125g
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Moonstream
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what else lies in it, and what corals are you planning to keep?
I am pretty sure that pinktails, crosshatches and bluethroats will all do okay in a tank of that size depending on tankmates...
I am pretty sure that pinktails, crosshatches and bluethroats will all do okay in a tank of that size depending on tankmates...
BangkokMatt
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Agree - and imo, short term as well. But....you have a 125g so your choice of other beautiful fish is broad
SteveJakubiec
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What size tank would I need for a Blue Throat Trigger (Male)
BangkokMatt
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I would avoid triggers in a 125g
SteveJakubiec
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Oh, all righty then.
1-Two Barred Rabbitfish
5-Anthias (TBD)
1-Powder Blue Tang
2-Clownfish (TBD)
1-Starry Blenny
1-Flame Hawkfish
1-Leopard Wrasse
Would you add anything else? What would you change? What species would you put in the (TBD) sections?
Thanks,
Steve
(Last question: Do Harlequin Tusks eat corals? Are they reefsafe?)
1-Two Barred Rabbitfish
5-Anthias (TBD)
1-Powder Blue Tang
2-Clownfish (TBD)
1-Starry Blenny
1-Flame Hawkfish
1-Leopard Wrasse
Would you add anything else? What would you change? What species would you put in the (TBD) sections?
Thanks,
Steve
(Last question: Do Harlequin Tusks eat corals? Are they reefsafe?)
BangkokMatt
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Definitely go for a pair of clowns - I couldn't imagine keeping a tank without them.
I would change the Powder blue tang. A 125g is too small. How about a Kole?
Flame hawkfish - one of my true favourite fish!
Make sure you know how to QT and care for the anthias. They can be tricky and require multiple feedings at first ( a good skimmer will help)
Starry Blenny - Many blennies can eat sps (if thats what you intend to keep). I don't know if this one does - anyone?
I would change the Powder blue tang. A 125g is too small. How about a Kole?
Flame hawkfish - one of my true favourite fish!
Make sure you know how to QT and care for the anthias. They can be tricky and require multiple feedings at first ( a good skimmer will help)
Starry Blenny - Many blennies can eat sps (if thats what you intend to keep). I don't know if this one does - anyone?
SteveJakubiec
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What size tank would I need for the Powder Blue, would a 180 suffice? I am either getting a 125 or a 180 once my family and I move.
BangkokMatt
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You could do it in a 180g.
If your choice is between a 125g and a 180g then it's a 'no brainer'. Get the 180g
If your choice is between a 125g and a 180g then it's a 'no brainer'. Get the 180g
SteveJakubiec
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What trigger would your recommend in a 180g FOWLR (Which seems where I'm going)
I was thinking of these tankmates for the trigger(s)
2 Barred Rabbitfish
Harlequin Tusk
Powder Blue Tang
Majestic Angel
Either Dwarf Lion or Puffer
Trigger(s)
I was thinking of these tankmates for the trigger(s)
2 Barred Rabbitfish
Harlequin Tusk
Powder Blue Tang
Majestic Angel
Either Dwarf Lion or Puffer
Trigger(s)
SteveJakubiec
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So I can't keep a Male BLue Throat in a 180g?
SteveJakubiec
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I actually like the look of the Sargassum, could I have another trigger in the tank? Are trigger allright with small fish? This is what I might be thinking about in a 180g:
Sargassum Trigger (Thank you for the idea)
2 Barred Rabbitfish
Harlequin Tusk
Powder Blue Tang
Need some other suggestions. What would you add to that list above?
Sargassum Trigger (Thank you for the idea)
2 Barred Rabbitfish
Harlequin Tusk
Powder Blue Tang
Need some other suggestions. What would you add to that list above?
MattL
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Steve,
From what I understand, Triggerfish do not thrive in a 125gal tank. Sure, they seem to "fit" just fine, but they do not adjust to being confined. The result is very sad, as the fish will pace back and forth. They continue to eat and live, but they are visually unhappy. If there are any Triggerfish that are an exception to this rule, then someone will have to correct me.
People often get hung up on volume, but from my experience, the length of the tank is the most important dimension, followed by height, followed by width. As far as a fish is concerned, I have observed very little difference in behavior in an 18" wide tank versus a 24" tank of equal length. I am not sure a 180gal would solve the problem of keeping a full-grown trigger, but again,s omeone would have to correct me.
However, bigger is better, if you are prepared for:
My idea is to sit and think about what you are prepared to handle and maintain, and what you really want in your tank before making your decision. People always advocate a bigger tank, and they have a point, but my well-maintained 125gal system is better for fish quality of life than someone's poorly maintained 180gal system that they purchased but can't take care of.
Buying fish is the most fun part of the hobby, but it is also the part of the hobby that should be done with the greatest degree of caution and as slowly as possible.
I keep a Powder Blue in my 125gal system. I know many other reefers locally (and others who have been featured in Reefkeeping magazine) who do the same. From all of our experience, the general consensus is that a 125gal system is acceptable, as long as there aren't any open water column swimmers of similar (or greater) size and behavior.
A Powder Blue Tang is a very challenging fish to keep.
Over the years, you can learn to keep one, but they are very difficult. I would not attempt one without a:
From what I understand, Triggerfish do not thrive in a 125gal tank. Sure, they seem to "fit" just fine, but they do not adjust to being confined. The result is very sad, as the fish will pace back and forth. They continue to eat and live, but they are visually unhappy. If there are any Triggerfish that are an exception to this rule, then someone will have to correct me.
People often get hung up on volume, but from my experience, the length of the tank is the most important dimension, followed by height, followed by width. As far as a fish is concerned, I have observed very little difference in behavior in an 18" wide tank versus a 24" tank of equal length. I am not sure a 180gal would solve the problem of keeping a full-grown trigger, but again,s omeone would have to correct me.
However, bigger is better, if you are prepared for:
- The added weight
- The added expense
- The added maintenance
My idea is to sit and think about what you are prepared to handle and maintain, and what you really want in your tank before making your decision. People always advocate a bigger tank, and they have a point, but my well-maintained 125gal system is better for fish quality of life than someone's poorly maintained 180gal system that they purchased but can't take care of.
Buying fish is the most fun part of the hobby, but it is also the part of the hobby that should be done with the greatest degree of caution and as slowly as possible.
I keep a Powder Blue in my 125gal system. I know many other reefers locally (and others who have been featured in Reefkeeping magazine) who do the same. From all of our experience, the general consensus is that a 125gal system is acceptable, as long as there aren't any open water column swimmers of similar (or greater) size and behavior.
A Powder Blue Tang is a very challenging fish to keep.
Over the years, you can learn to keep one, but they are very difficult. I would not attempt one without a:
- quarantine system
- established display tank
[/list=1]So in short, this is a fish that I would add to your 125 or 180gal system after a year or two when you have a full setup up and running.
PBTs also vary in personality like most fish. Hoewver, they can be on the aggressive end of the tang spectrum, and thus, it is almost an absolute necessary to pick one out in person who is alert and inquisitive but not skittish, overly hostile to tank mates, etc.
I hope this advice helps.
Matt
SteveJakubiec
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So, if you were to stock a 180g, how would you stock it? FOWLR. (I have my 55g for all my corals)
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SteveJakubiec
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So, what you're saying is basically, that I shouldn't get a trigger, and I shouldn't get a Powder Blue Tang untill the tank is setup for around 2 years?
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MattL
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Steve,
What I'm saying is that some thought needs to go in to what you want to keep in this tank, and then make sure you are set up properly to care for those inhabitants for a long period of time.
Is this going to be a reef tank?
Doing stocklists is a fun exercise. It's like virtual shopping. But it ultimately means very little, as fish should be acquired and added slowly over a prolonged period of time.
Often, fish that may be compatible on paper may be incompatible in person.
You have plenty of fish to break in your new tank. Bigger is always better, but it is also more expsnsive harder to maintain.
Assuming you had a fixed budget (I don't know if you do), I would buy a 125gal and use the rest of the money saved from not buying a 180gal to build a complete second system as a hospital and quarantine tank. I use a 40L (no longer made) for the quarantine tank. You will need a 55gal tank if you plan on keeping tangs.
And yes, it may be almost a year before you add your PBT.
You will probably want to add him last, and by the time the tank breaks in and you go through adding your other inhabitants once every 8 week quarantine cycle, yes, it could be 18months
Matt
What I'm saying is that some thought needs to go in to what you want to keep in this tank, and then make sure you are set up properly to care for those inhabitants for a long period of time.
Is this going to be a reef tank?
Doing stocklists is a fun exercise. It's like virtual shopping. But it ultimately means very little, as fish should be acquired and added slowly over a prolonged period of time.
Often, fish that may be compatible on paper may be incompatible in person.
You have plenty of fish to break in your new tank. Bigger is always better, but it is also more expsnsive harder to maintain.
Assuming you had a fixed budget (I don't know if you do), I would buy a 125gal and use the rest of the money saved from not buying a 180gal to build a complete second system as a hospital and quarantine tank. I use a 40L (no longer made) for the quarantine tank. You will need a 55gal tank if you plan on keeping tangs.
And yes, it may be almost a year before you add your PBT.
You will probably want to add him last, and by the time the tank breaks in and you go through adding your other inhabitants once every 8 week quarantine cycle, yes, it could be 18months
Matt
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