What's the deal? (Name brand corals)
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SchnitzelReef
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I totally agree with dvanacker. I've had the worst luck with mariculture/wild colony's (to me they are the same thing).
I've stopped buying any mari/wild colony's, and I now stick to buying only aquaculture frags from local hobbyists. I too had great success with wild colony's.....for about 3-6 months. After that, they all slowly started to stn/RTN.
I think if u wanna have a successful SPS tank, stick with aquaculture.
I've stopped buying any mari/wild colony's, and I now stick to buying only aquaculture frags from local hobbyists. I too had great success with wild colony's.....for about 3-6 months. After that, they all slowly started to stn/RTN.
I think if u wanna have a successful SPS tank, stick with aquaculture.
Bello
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Piper27
I love bengals
Yes, just now. So he grew 70 percent from frags of what? Wild or tank raised? Then you typed "hmm" because? I am confused. Forgive me but I have not had time to read his thread yet. Just looked st one video.
Allmost
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I really dont know why mariculture corals get such bad names ...
100% of mine are mariculture ... I did have Issues with pests [AEFW and red bugs] but besides that, I really dont get what the Issue is ....
if one can keep a maricultured coral in a reef tank for 5 months, then even if the piece dies after, its not the fault of origin of the coral anymore ! it was alive for 5 months ....
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100% of mine are mariculture ... I did have Issues with pests [AEFW and red bugs] but besides that, I really dont get what the Issue is ....
if one can keep a maricultured coral in a reef tank for 5 months, then even if the piece dies after, its not the fault of origin of the coral anymore ! it was alive for 5 months ....
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Piper27
I love bengals
I have seen a bunch of tanks in my area that were started with a lot of wild stuff. Most of the people I have talked to and in my case have had a few colonies die randomly well after their purchase. I try to stick to buying frags because my success rate goes up wayyyy higher. But if you want something thsts really sweet around here you gotta get there early because it won't be there long enough to frag.
So ALL of your stuff died? That's another topic I think. It didn't die beause it was wild. I am well aware of the risk of sudden rtn or Stn but they don't just all die. I wonder what the death percentage of some of the guys like copps was when he first started collecting for his tank? I also wonder if he plans on buying more wild stuff for his big upgrade I heard about. He has some sweet wild stuff.
Allmost
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I think I know who you may be talking about, he has a nice set up.
in your opinion, do you think his results would have been any different if he introduced 20 aquacultured frags at that time ?
I 100% agree with ure point that aquacultures = tried and proven to work in reef tank, where as mariculture is a risk ..
SchnitzelReef
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It wasn't like my corals all lived for 5 months and I woke up one morning and they were all dead, it was a slow and steady death amongst all wild/mari colony's.
During the same time, I had many aquaculture SPS frags growing perfectly fine, and they are still thriving in my tank today.
However now I am battling AEFW from the same mari/wild colony's that all died. So to me, the mari/wild is NOT worth the risk. I would much rather spend $100 on a 1" aquaculture frag then $50 on a huge colony that has a 80/20 change of living . (20 being its chance of survival)
I'm not arguing that its impossible to have a successful sps tank with mari colony's, but ur chances of success improve greatly with aquaculture.
Here's my poor frags in their temporary spot while I wait for my new frag/AEFW battling tank to be finished. Lol
During the same time, I had many aquaculture SPS frags growing perfectly fine, and they are still thriving in my tank today.
However now I am battling AEFW from the same mari/wild colony's that all died. So to me, the mari/wild is NOT worth the risk. I would much rather spend $100 on a 1" aquaculture frag then $50 on a huge colony that has a 80/20 change of living . (20 being its chance of survival)
I'm not arguing that its impossible to have a successful sps tank with mari colony's, but ur chances of success improve greatly with aquaculture.
Here's my poor frags in their temporary spot while I wait for my new frag/AEFW battling tank to be finished. Lol
Allmost
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this is hard to understand.
why did all wild corals die on 5 months mark ? and all other corals that were frags were not affected ?
I dont know, do you think something happened in your tank that just aimed at wild corals and knew which corals you bought as aquaculture ?
like I mean if AEFW .. .then all corals [acros] would be effected. never heard of AEFW targeting wild corals first.
in terms of Getting AEFW to begin with, I agree ... wild corals carry pests alot of times.
Piper27
I love bengals
Man that's beautiful! Thanks for posting your tank!
Also I got aefw and redbugs from buying corals. But I never bought a thing wild, just local club members stuff is all from what I can remember. Completely my fault for not knowing what pests were
Any way you could post a pic of your favorite or coolest looking piece?
SchnitzelReef
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Jesus I could barely understand your post with all the smart a$$ remarks.
No nothing was targeting just my wild colony's. I had AEFW on ALL my SPS. But maybe it's the fact that wild/mari SPS colony's don't do well in an aquarium. None of them bleached or browned out. They would have polyps extended and colored up nice, then one day boom RTN. Totally out of the blue. I have a calcium reactor and I do regular water changes. There was no alk or calcium fluctuations. I would test phosphates, nitrates, alk, calcium, mag etc etc. nothing was too high or too low.
And like I said I would have a nice 1" aquaculture frag sitting right next to a RTNing mariculture colony, and it was perfectly healthy.
I know guys with 3+ year established SPS Dom tanks that cannot keep mariculture colony's. So If you are really trying to argue that mariculture SPS and/or wild sps colony's are just as hardy as aquaculture, then u truly have something to learn. Maybe u should stop being such a smart a$$ and do some research.
Piper27
I love bengals
I would like to keep this thread focused on the people who have kept wild stuff and have them thriving and colorful. And the rediculous pricing of certain tank raised and even wild frags. No one said wild is as hardy as tank raised...
Lets keep the "all my wild corals died" conversation in its own thread please. And it's hard to understand or know if someone is being rude or harsh through a forum so lets keep the attitude or anything else in check. We are all here to learn not get angry at each other
Lets keep the "all my wild corals died" conversation in its own thread please. And it's hard to understand or know if someone is being rude or harsh through a forum so lets keep the attitude or anything else in check. We are all here to learn not get angry at each other
Allmost
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wow forget it ... I was just trying to understand what happened !
and sure, I will do more research. but maybe you got my post wrong ? I wasnt trying to be rude, and if you took it that way, then my bad
Allmost
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Man that's beautiful! Thanks for posting your tank!
Also I got aefw and redbugs from buying corals. But I never bought a thing wild, just local club members stuff is all from what I can remember. Completely my fault for not knowing what pests were
thanks but absolutely nothing special about my tank, specially compared to Darryl's
I like this coral
Allmost
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let me ask you.
first I am not trying to argue, to me this is a friendly discussion
[or I hope it would be] but same coral, same species, one is grown in an aquarium and fragged, other grown in ocean and fragged. are you saying that the one that was grown in ocean, will be weaker ?
I got this piece over a year ago ... it was wild ...
now you see it as sand dollar or something ... its the same coral, with the same survival rate
all corals, are originated from the ocean.
Piper, was that for me ? the blue one is Acro Valida.
but heres another for you
karsseboom
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maricultured Corals are pretty easy to keep in my experience. They almost seem to do better then the aquacutlrued frags I get. I have a different experience with straight wild colonys though, they seem to be a shot in the dark somtimes.
I don't think anyone is saying maricultured is super hard to keep alive, they are hard to keep there colors though.
I don't think anyone is saying maricultured is super hard to keep alive, they are hard to keep there colors though.
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