whats wrong with the canon 1000d

[myfrostymember]

so ive been looking at the three canons 1000d, xti,xsi- and i came across this post ---
http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=1520961

in the post 'Beerguy' says he would avoid the 1000d and im wondering why-- i found one on bh with two lenses for 500-

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/589104-REG/Canon__EOS_Rebel_XS_a_k_a_.html#accessories

i understand the lens isnt probably the best but being as i havnt ever used a lens period im thinking it would be good to have a couple to learn with and play around- i also went to the review site and it says that the 1000d is a step above the xti

http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/canoneos1000d/page2.asp

just looking for some insight

thanks guys

i just ofund this one refurabished- this a better idea?

http://www.adorama.com/ICADRXTIBKR.html?searchinfo=canon xti refurbished&item_no=11

 

[TitusvileSurfer]

I don't understand why the 1000D even exists. Those two lenses aren't the brightest of the bunch either. The 75-300 is considered by many to be the worst lens made by Canon. The older 18-55 was a close 2nd or 3rd. The newer 18-55 seems to be a great improvement, but even still I wouldn't want to own any of that stuff. I would much rather have an Xti than a 1000D, even thought the 1000D is supposed to be an upgrade. Heck I would take an Xt before a 1000D. I would rather have a SX10 IS than a 1000D with those two lenses.

I do not agree with this statement:
"Here's a comparison of the headline specifications, showing how the 1000D lines up alongside its big brother (the 450D), and the camera they replace (the 400D). As can be seen, with only a few significant exceptions, the 1000D's specification exceeds that of the 400D."

Auto focus sucks compared to the rebel (significant exception)
Rebel shoots twice as fast in RAW, and even the rebel is considered slow. (significant exception)
Its has the durability of a happy meal toy. (significant exception)

The release of the 1000D is the 2nd time I have ever questioned Canon's good intentions. I'll try to find the 1st time in a second...(it was minor)

 

[TitusvileSurfer]

I can't find it. Basically there was a magazine add that showed the typical 20 professional photographers shooting an NFL game with their giant white 300L's, 500L's 70-200L's, and a couple of other great whites. Well they Photoshoped lens elements on the end of the lens hoods. If you don't know anything about cameras it looked cool and natural. To anyone that had actually ever used a DSLR and might actually buy one of those lenses, it looked tacky and stupid. Those are the two times I have thought, "What were you thinking Canon?!".

 

[myfrostymember]

ok so how about the refurbished xti from adorama- i know it has a p.o.s. lens also i believe its the cheap 18-55 old school one (no t positve) - thing is im not lookin gfor godly lens right now i really just need a decent body and a lens i can learn with---is it a bad idea to cheap out on that lens when i could spend a little more and get the better 18-55 lens?- how often is a 18-55 lens used? ya im clueless if you didnt notice
thanks man

 

[TitusvileSurfer]

Yeah that is the old 18-55. I personally don't recommend it, but it would be better than a 1000D. If your determined to spend as little money as possible, go with that deal. I don't mean to sound like a snob, but keep in mind DSLR's just aren't a very rewarding little money as possible hobby.

I think you should look into a Canon G10. You would probably get more bang for your buck.

 

[myfrostymember]

i have no problem spending money on it in the long run --its just very hard for me to justify to my wife needing to drop extra dollars to get a better lens when the lens is probably the least of my worry currently- bh photo has the 18-55 IS lense for around 150$ thats the better lens right?--

ill look into the g10
how often do you use a 18-55 lens?

 

[TitusvileSurfer]

The zoom range of an 18-55 lens is pretty practical, it just doesn't do a very good job at anything else i.e. build quality (feels like it will fall apart), blurred edges, contrast (whites not white enough compared to blacks which aren't black enough, this directly effects how sharp the image is as well), color accuracy (red might be pink ect.), chromatic abrasion (colors bleeding into eachother, you might have a purple ring around someone's hair for example), vignetting (the picture is as bright as you want in the center but gets darker towards the edges), ect. ect. ect. The new 18-55 IS would be a big improvement over the old one IMO.

 

[myfrostymember]

thanks for the help man ---think im going with the refurbished one and upgrading as i get better with the stuff- probably sometime in the next life

 

[TitusvileSurfer]

Haha okay, good luck with it.