When Ich Attacks: Part 5

[Titus77]

Okay...so after waiting a month for a replacement filter impeller to arrive, three of my fish finally got ich (yes, I was expecting it). So now I have a pair of clowns and a singapore angel with ich. On the Angel, not only is there ich, but on the top of it's "head", there is a horizontal red line. I appears to be internal. Also, on the base of it's pectoral fins (where the fin meets the body) there is internal red. It is kinda more of an orangish, but I am still assuming that it is blood. So here are my questions:

1) For the Ich problem: will a cleaner shrimp take off the little shits?

2) For the Singapore Angel: is he bleeding internally?

Thanks in advance.

 

[Recty]

Nope, cleaner shrimp wont remove the ich.

The red lines appearing are probably some type of infection, not "just" internal bleeding. Same way humans get red lines up their arms and legs when they have infections.

 

[Rick55555]

In my experience the following is the best way to get rid of ich: Remove all fish from the display tank. Place the fish in a separate quarantine tank for two weeks using copper. Test the copper levels daily and adjust accordingly. Perform regular water changes on the QT (and again adjust the copper level). After two weeks remove the copper by way of water changes and carbon. Leave the display tank without fish for approximately two months. Performing generous water changes on the tank while the tank is without fish/fallow will help. Thereafter, QT all new fish.

I hope this helps

Rick

 

[Titus77]

You see...I have a fish in the QT right now (I was actually going to introduce him the day after the impeller broke). Will a cleaner wrass pick off the Ich? I know that aquarists should avoid getting those wrass, but if my LFS had one? Right now, I am medicatiing the tank with KickIch. Today was the third day medicating.

 

[Recty]

KickIch is worthless imo... I've used it before and it did nothing for me, I had a pair of clownfish with ich and the KickIch worked, I THOUGHT, then 2 weeks later while in QT they had it again and even worse.

I'd go with cupramine to treat for ich.

No, the wrasse wont clean away the ich either. Cleaner wrasse/shrimp will get some ich, I'm sure, but definitely not the majority of it... you cant count on them to cure your fish.

 

[paulamrein]

Re: When Ich Attacks: Part 5

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=13579264#post13579264 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Titus77
1) For the Ich problem: will a cleaner shrimp take off the little shits?

Though it is common language, it is still a family site, let's put our big-boy pants on and use some tact. I understand your frustration, but not your use of language. I'm sure I'll hear some sort of feed back from my post, but so be it.

 

[Titus77]

After 4 days of KickIch, the parasites are getting smaller. Did the big ones just "jump" off the fish and multiply in the live sand?

Oh, and paulamrein, sorry about the lango. I just tried to edit the post, but it was too late. Seriously, I thought that there was a word filter here, sorry 'bout that.

 

[StayPuft]

Actually cleaner shrimp and cleaner wrasses CAN help control ich, in some cases. Now if your tank is infested, no they won't help. But if you always have them in your tank they can control ich, not get rid of it, "control it."

I've had ich in my 65gal reef for a year, with a cleaner shrimp and not a single fish died. Once in a while I'd see one or two dots on a fish but the shrimp would clean them within 24 hours. Again, not a single fish died.

 

[idareefer]

neon goby's to a nice job cleaning your parasites, my powder blue & other fish love to visit him at his cleaning station.

 

[Titus77]

How big do they get? What size are they usually shipped at? Will they be the right size for my longspine waspfish's dinner? He can barely eat an Ocean Nutrition medium sized pellet without "choking". The Waspfish is ~3-4 inches long. Thanks!

 

[paulamrein]

neon gobies top out at the 1 to 1.5 inch mark. I have found more in my overflow than I did cleaning the fish. Not to say that they don't do the job, I put them in the same catergory as cleaner shrimp with the cleaner shrimp having more appeal because they themselves won't get ich. Neon's on the other hand will, and they won't clean eachother. Most fish if fed well won't veiw them as dinner with their markings clearly telling them that they are cleaners. They are both comparable to the same price as well.
No problems with the lango man, just know that my neices were with me when I read this and they asked me what the word meant