When you think you're cycled...

Sk8r

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1. test it out with a little fishfood. If it spikes ammonia, you're not cycled.
2. test the water for not only nitrate and ammonia, test it for alkalinity. Get that to 7.9 to 8.3. You will continue to do that test as part of the routine test sequence...forever.
3. test it by adding one snail or micro hermit crab. If they thrive and start eating, great. Add more. Test the water every 7 days as you a) start ONE fish in quarantine, with TTM.
4. you now have a fully functioning tank and cuc, whose job is NOT to eat all the algae---what they clean up is dead stuff, if a fish should die, etc; and waste food. So if you don't have a fish in there supplying poo and wasting food, you may have to feed the cuc a little.
5. fish completely vetted and ok? NOW you can add that fish to the tank and start qt'ing another. You can also add a coral of the hardier varieties, if you have the light for it. Same protocol: make sure it thrives before adding others.

What you've done here: that cuc has been eating and poo'ing into the sandbed, which has been continuing to grow in strength, as bacteria also spread deep into the rocks, and as the sandbed is increasingly capable of handling the tank chemistry. Don't go crazy feeding. If the cuc is handling fallen food, that's fine. If not--you're overfeeding and exceeding the tank's capacity. The cure is not necessarily 'another fish.' It's more likely 'less food.'

You may go through several algae varieties as the tank matures. Resist the temptation to run in circles and panic. This is how the tank processes what's soaking out of rock and sand, and when it has finally gone through all of it, you will see it go away for good. There are a few proactive things you can do about it: get a GFO reactor to remove the excess phosphate that drives hair algae; get a decent skimmer and turn out the lights on the tank (do not black out its walls) 3 days a month, repeating until cyanobacteria gives up; and if you spot any rooted macroalgae, get that rock out and ask in this forum how to kill the growth. Rooted macro can be a tank-killer, so do not let it spread.

Hope that helps a bit.
 
i've often wondered as I never really got any good answers from research... are coral banded shrimp considered to be a part of a clean up crew? or are they a totally different part of the tank spectrum...

i know snails/crabs do their own part, but i always wondered about shrimp.
 
CBS are fish-eaters if they can nab one while it's sleeping. They're predators.

Other CUC mistakes: any starfish except the brown brittle star: the others either need very mature tanks or eat things you don't want them to eat.
Any 'fleshy' invert of size, like sea apples. Your tank is too young for a cucumber, and certainly not stable enough for a critter of that sort.
Peppermint shrimp are ok. Cleaner shrimp can pester fish in a small tank where they can't get away. Camel shrimp are a no: they're sometimes confused with peps, and are tank pests. and do not! mix types of shrimp. They don't always play nicely together. Crabs that aren't hermits are not a good idea: the least harmful is the emerald mithrax, but it often takes a nip at passing fish, and it doesn't do much for your algae if there's other food available. The sally lightfoot gets the size of a dinner plate, and as it grows, will eat fish.

Stick to snails and hermits, have a Plan and stick to it: buying the Curiosity of the Week at the LFS is a path to trouble. Yes, the sea can offer many strange and wonderful things---but your tank is not the place to observe them, particularly as they prove to eat something you cherish...or starve. Study a creature and ask around, THEN ask your lfs to order what you are looking for. Most will happily do that.
 
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CBS will pick up uneaten food, and they'll scavenge dead or dying organisms - but if they can catch a small fish unawares, they're probably happy to snack on that too. Consider the size and power of those claws . . .

Some folks keep CBS with no problem, others have had fish go missing, or show up in the shrimp's not-so-tender embrace.

~Bruce
 
Shrimp will eat anything their claws can get to their mouth. This is also true of crabs.
 
Shrimp will eat anything their claws can get to their mouth. This is also true of crabs.

What about some species of crab that are more on the Advanced Husbandry side of things?

Like Porcelain Crabs (Filter feeders) or Acro Crabs (Mini, and apparently Symbiotic in nature with Acro corals)
 
Can we make this required reading before the purchase of a bucket of salt?

Thanks for taking the time to provide another clear, simple, understandable write-up. Invaluable.
 
Can we make this required reading before the purchase of a bucket of salt?

Thanks for taking the time to provide another clear, simple, understandable write-up. Invaluable.

Yeah the breakdown is simple and the explanation of whats going on in the background is nice.
 
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