Where am I at?

JTL

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It has been a long time since I cycled a tank from scratch and never have I used this method so I am a little lost about where I am at in the cycle and what to do going forward.

I posted some of this in someone else's threat but decided to start fresh in this one. I started with 70 lbs of Reef Saver rock from BRS. I put this into a container with saltwater, some bacteria in a bottle from Instant Ocean and a dead shrimp along with a small power head. After 28 days I transferred the the rock to my DT and added a couple of bottles of Fritz Zyme (about 1/3 of what is recommended but all that I had on hand) and enough ammonia to bring the reading up to 3.0.

When I transferred the rock the old water in the holding tank registered zero ammonia and 2.0 phosphates.

The next day I added a couple of pieces of live rock. The ammonia is now .50 and a day later it dropped to .25 and the nitrate was 10 ppm and the nitrite was 3. The next day the ammonia was zero. I added some more ammonia, raising it to 3.0 within a day it dropped to .25 the nitrate was now 40 ppm and the nitrite was 5.0. Added more ammonia.

Today, which is 34 days from when I first started curing the Reef Saver rock and 6 days in the DT my reading are: Ammonia .50, Nitrate 80 and Phosphate zero. I need to get a test strip this morning to test for Nitrite.

I am not speaking from experience but I think I am nearing the end of the cycle. If the Nitrite is zero that would confirm it, correct. I am not adding any ammonia today to see if that goes to zero. I suspect that I am keeping it up by adding the 10% ammonium hydroxide. This is certainly more powerful than the waste of a couple of small fish even at 2-3 teaspoons in a 100g tank.

What do you people think? The guy who runs my lfs has a big attitude problem and has never liked me because I don't take everything he says as the only answer or solution. He refuses to even make a suggestion on this tank cycle, because (1) he told my not to try to cycle in a tub while I was getting the rest of my stuff finished. He said I was rushing things. (2) He wanted me to purchase the Red Sea kit to start the tank but I was too far into this to mess with it. He is a huge Red Sea fan boy so that irritated him. He does know corals and grows out most of what he has himself. Lot of very nice pieces.
 
I agree that you are close to being done cycling. I would stop adding ammonia. Once the ammonia and nitrite readings are zero, the tank is done cycling. I would bet that it will be very soon. After that, do a very large water change or two to cut the nitrates down to a reasonable range.
 
I don't think I want to let the rock go too long without a food source. If I don't find a fish that I like and is quarantined for a week or two maybe I should let the ammonia and nitrite go to zero. Do my water changes and if I don't have a fish give it another shot of ammonia. Thoughts?
 
STOP adding ammonia man..
The cycle was already done a long time ago.. If fact it was done after your initial 28 days when you first transferred the rock..

There is NO need to feed the bacteria.. It will live a LONG time (months or more without you doing anything....

Adding ammonia is not the right way and is just creating elevated nitrates.. No more ammonia.. You add that once.. maybe twice to a tank MAX.. no more..
Stop.. Just let it be..

The only thing you need to do now is water changes to lower the nitrates and then just top off with fresh water to replace whats evaporated daily to keep salinity correct..
 
STOP adding ammonia man..
The cycle was already done a long time ago.. If fact it was done after your initial 28 days when you first transferred the rock..

There is NO need to feed the bacteria.. It will live a LONG time (months or more without you doing anything....

Adding ammonia is not the right way and is just creating elevated nitrates.. No more ammonia.. You add that once.. maybe twice to a tank MAX.. no more..
Stop.. Just let it be..

The only thing you need to do now is water changes to lower the nitrates and then just top off with fresh water to replace whats evaporated daily to keep salinity correct..

You don't know that the cycle was complete anymore than I do when I transferred the rock. Believe me I wish I did. I doubt if the bacteria would last for months without any food source, but it should have to. Some people just continue to feed flakes until they get the fish they want.

I am not adding any ammonia and want to see it drop to zero along with the NO2, the NO3 can and will be removed with WC's. I know about evaporation I have been doing this off and on for 30 years. It was just the initial cycle that was different than my previous experience. In retrospect I should have monitored the rock when it was in the tub. I do appreciate the comments.
 
STOP adding ammonia man..
The cycle was already done a long time ago.. If fact it was done after your initial 28 days when you first transferred the rock..

There is NO need to feed the bacteria.. It will live a LONG time (months or more without you doing anything....

Adding ammonia is not the right way and is just creating elevated nitrates.. No more ammonia.. You add that once.. maybe twice to a tank MAX.. no more..
Stop.. Just let it be..

The only thing you need to do now is water changes to lower the nitrates and then just top off with fresh water to replace whats evaporated daily to keep salinity correct..
This is good info.
 
^ Agree and I appreciate he took the time to comment. Still not sure about the "months or more without you doing anything" but I am not a biologist so maybe.
 
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