Where to learn about plumbing?

ZooZ

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Hello,

So I am deciding to finally build a new tank with a sump this time. LFS are charging $1000 to do the plumbing on my 100G build 40 x 24 x 24. I rather learn and do it myself to feel a sense of ownership and have fun doing it. I'm just not sure on how to go about plumbing the sump and return. Anyone know any good sites, videos, books etc?
 
$1,000??!!

Run from that LFS!

Plumbing is very easy....start in this forum and ask away. The total materials would be maybe $100-$150, and that is with true unions valves(they allow disconnection and flow stoppage)

Also look for tank builds that show the plumbing setup....you can familiarize yourself with what it looks like. If you screw up and miscut or whatever....PVC piping is sooooo cheap. A 1" 10 foot long pipe is 3 or 4 bucks. Elbows and couplings about a dollar.

WOrking with PVC is basically just fitting pieces together.....the glue makes it permanent.
 
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This part the easy to me being around plumbing my whole life since my dad and brother were plumbers. It may not make any sense to you because you aren't familiar with what's put there. To start I would walk into a home depot or lowes into the pvc area and just look at the fittings so you know what's out there. Most are self explanatory just by looking at them. I bet you will have a much better understanding of how simple it is just by knowing what fittings are available. Know that you want to get to your target areas with the least amount of fittings as possible. Make sure there's a valve I do it near the bulkheads on mine. Also a union will make it possible to take out the plumbing for cleaning or removing the pump for what ever reason you need to. If you post a pic of your tank and sump we can help you figure it out. Use clear primer the purple will make a mess since you haven't used it before.
 
Plumbing is just like screwing garden hose together. Decide what needs to connect, and go to Lowes or Home Depot with a diagram to get you the right parts. Learn to use purple glue and always pick the white pipe. Also use hose when you can: it saves on bends where trouble collects. Find out about hose clamps. ANd teflon tape. The salesmen will show you how to use them. Hose clams go on hose. Tape goes on joints, and you wind it on in the direction you screw on so it won't unwind. All common sense stuff. Learn never to let an intermittently active pump line touch the water unless you have a 'siphon break' or hole to let air in, or it will siphon to the lower point. Most of all---ask about your diagram here and get some advice. YOu can upload pix via a free account at photobucket.com.
 
Thank you guys. Ive read the articles about sumps in reepkeeping magazine and been reading about sump designs on the net. I will go to the local hardware store and check the plumbing section there. I will sketch something up and scan and upload it here.
 
Also, beer and pizza works wonders with local reefers usually.
Maybe invite a few over for some brainstorming.
 
Plumbing, IMHO, is actually kinda fun. In my deluded mind it's what makes that glass box in to a "system" and is one of my two favorite parts of putting together a new reef, the other being building up the rockwork prior to adding livestock.

One word on posting plumbing pics, however - if you ask us, you're going to get a variety of responses and they're probably all valid. The one thing that I think any of us with experience will tell you though is this: it's not nearly as hard as you want it to be.
 
Also, beer and pizza works wonders with local reefers usually.
Maybe invite a few over for some brainstorming.

I just moved to Edmonton from Toronto and found a group of saltwater/reef hobbyists. I am actually really looking forward to getting started on this project.
 
Lol---I got pretty good at it over the years, to the extent I did a basement-sited sump, replaced bulkhead connectors in a total tank refurb, and then undertook a 5000 gallon outdoor pond with a pool skimmer, waterfall, and adjacent stream and pond. It's all one job, just scale.

Just remember not to use metal in saltwater: it's ok in fresh; don't use copper on the tank-ward side of your ro/di filter, but it's ok upstream of it; don't overtighten a bulkhead connector (a woman with a fairly strong grip can hand-tighten most joints quite enough) and don't obsess over an underwater leak: what leaks underwater is just not a Big Deal, and often the ability to snatch off a hose and reconfigure is an asset. Hose barbs are lovely things. So are loc-line connectors, if good ones. And you can get creative. I hose-clamped a loc-line connector INSIDE the end of a 1/2 inch hose to reduce the hose to 1/4 inch for topoff.

Do remember too that hose is always given in TWO diameters: always ask if your measure is inside diameter or outside. That saves you getting home with a lot of expensive hose that now requires adaptors to make it work.

But never give up a part or a stub of hose: having a drawer of adapters and connectors is a good thing: after a couple of decades in this hobby, you should have an array that will let you fix anything from your bathroom to a pond pump to your regular marine tank.
 
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