Which lionfish should I get?

StephLionfish

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Stupid question, I know, but I'm trying to decide over a Black Volitan lionfish and a Radiata lionfish. The Volitan's stripes are almost solid black, with black and white fins. But, the radiata is beautiful and I love the coloration, and I see see them less. ( Actually haven't seen them at all) Which would you choose?
 
Personally I did both :) Radiata if you have the patience for a fish that will need to be weaned off live food, and hides a lot.
 
Personally I did both :) Radiata if you have the patience for a fish that will need to be weaned off live food, and hides a lot.

I've trained my Dwarf Zebra lionfish to eat frozen food. So, I know what that feels like. But, I drove my fish store crazy to let me have the Zebra. ( They don't sell fish that don't eat frozen food), They'd already killed two lionfish from starvation ( they just threw krill in there), after...how many trips to the fish store, 39 maybe?, they let me have it.:lol2: I finally got him to eat prepared foods. The bad thing is...this Radiata is not eating frozen foods, and they won't let me have it no matter what. I really hope they don't kill it.:hmm2: Would love to have it!
 
My LFS killed a couple radiata that I ordered in as well. Finally I got one off Diver's Den, and had it eating frozen in a couple weeks.
 
Stupid question, I know, but I'm trying to decide over a Black Volitan lionfish and a Radiata lionfish. The Volitan's stripes are almost solid black, with black and white fins. But, the radiata is beautiful and I love the coloration, and I see see them less. ( Actually haven't seen them at all) Which would you choose?


Although I wouldn't recommend this as a 1st lionfish, Radiata lionfish aren't really difficult, IMO & IME. Everything else being equal, get the one you like. Your tank=your money=your decision. Because you're a fairly new RC member, I'll ask the obvious: How big a tank and what tankmates? I hope your public profile isn't current and you only have a 20 gal tank.
 
As mentioned, your tank size will have a lot to do with which fish you get.

If your tank is at least 100 gals, and at least 18" front-to-back, you can go with either fish. If your tank is smaller, the radiata is a better fit, as it will end up about half-3/4 of the size of the volitans' adult size.

P. radiata is a great fish, but tend to be rough shippers, so getting a good specimen is a huge part of the equation. They will generally be a bit harder to wean onto prepared foods than a volitans, and will also be a bit more picky in terms of water quality.

If you haven't read it, give Frank Marini's excellent article on LIONFISH CARE a read.

Frank also has a super book out called Lionfishes and Other Scorpionfishes, which is a must-have IMHO (less than $10 on Amazon.com).

Finally, Tools of the Trade: Equipment & Techniques to Convert your Fish onto Frozen. is a good article on weaning and feeding your lionfish.

Of course, photos are compulsory...
 
Although I wouldn't recommend this as a 1st lionfish, Radiata lionfish aren't really difficult, IMO & IME. Everything else being equal, get the one you like. Your tank=your money=your decision. Because you're a fairly new RC member, I'll ask the obvious: How big a tank and what tankmates? I hope your public profile isn't current and you only have a 20 gal tank.

It (the lionfish I choose) will be going in a 180 gallon. Currently, there are no other fish in the tank. This is because I want two tangs, Scopas and Hippo, in the tank as the only other fish. And I want to add them together, just to be on the safe side, even though I doubt they'll fight. I would keep the lion in a "holding tank" ( 75 gallons), just to make sure that it is healthy. Some may argue with this decision, but...I'd prefer to do it.

The picture for my profile is a few months old. The volitan was 4 inches in this picture, and temporarily in a 75 gallon ( by himself of course)while I was making SURE that my 210 was ready for him. Four(?) months later I put him in the 210, the tank is a reef with LED lighting. Unfortunately, the lighting blinded him after just three days of being in there, and I moved him back to his 75 gallon. Two months later, he was still blind, but was eating and "scooting" around and happy. Two weeks ago he got ich. Out of nowhere. After a few days of it coming back, going away, coming back, I was about to try hyposalinity. But, when I got up the next morning, he was dead:sad2: I'd tried everything. The water was fine, temp. was fine. Nothing else in the tank ( he was 8-9 inches when he died, I was JUST about to put him in the 180 gallon before he got ich.)

I've got many other tanks. The smallest is 55 gallons, and I'm about to upgrade it to 120 gallons. Where does it say I have a 20 gal? I do, but, only thing in there is a turbo snail and a tiny CC starfish...:rolleye1: And it's about to come down. I've got two other lionfish- Dwarf Fuzzy and a Dwarf Zebra, that I've had for quite a while now, and they are very,very healthy.

Again, don't slam me about the volitan's death. I've never experienced that before. I'd never heard about lionfishs' eyes being sensitive to lighting. I guess put two and two together-they are rather nocturnal, they cannot handle bright lights. But, there are many, many caves for him in the 210... I went the extra mile when he was blind to feed him ( it was quite difficult). And, like I mentioned before, I feed them frozen, and shudder when I hear of people feeding them goldfish...*shudder*.

I don't want to keep aggressive fish with my lions, because in my experience, lionfish aren't aggressive. So, since the tank is only 180 gallons, should I go with the Radiata? Or would the volitan be fine in there?
 
If you're going to keep fast movers like tangs, go for the volitans as they're definitely more likely to be out and about. Personally, I'd add the lion first and get it conditioned and acclimated to its new digs. This way, it will have a bit more "seniority" in the tank's pecking order.

Sorry to hear about your other volitans...hypo is actually not a easy as it sounds as the water chemistry (esp. pH and dissolved O2) can go south pretty easily. We've used hypo in the past, but the last time, "something" happened and we lost a fave fish.
 
If you're going to keep fast movers like tangs, go for the volitans as they're definitely more likely to be out and about. Personally, I'd add the lion first and get it conditioned and acclimated to its new digs. This way, it will have a bit more "seniority" in the tank's pecking order.

Sorry to hear about your other volitans...hypo is actually not a easy as it sounds as the water chemistry (esp. pH and dissolved O2) can go south pretty easily. We've used hypo in the past, but the last time, "something" happened and we lost a fave fish.

The CW says hypo is easier on fish than copper; but copper is much easier on me---and that counts for something. I may be in the minority, using Cupramine and a de-wormer as a prophylactic treatment but it works for me.

There are very few members of this forum whose advice I would follow without question. When it comes to venomous fish, namxas (and his resident supervisor) is one of them. I've kept lions for 30+ years and have learned things from them quite often.
 
Tusk,

If there's a "next time", we're going with chelated/buffered copper... ;)

IMO & IME, any copper works if its properly monitored. I chose Cupramine for after exhaustive and very scientific studies. Namely, SeaChem's companion copper test kit was the only one I seemed to be able to read.
 
i would say fuzzy dwarfs. mor colors availible

i have a red one. a yellow and brown and a white and brown

they look awsome. very personable.

but of the 2 u are asking about i would go with the black volitian

IME fast moving fish intimidate the lion from swimming
 

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