white dots all over help

[Slakker]

I guess it's possible.
Are both fish eating? That's the first big concern, if they're not eating they'll have a real hard time recovering.

GSMguy, I'm not sure, but my clowns went through something that sounds really similar when I first got them, and I'm not sure it was Ich.

 

[wawruck]

my clarkii pair did too. The day after I got them they had black spots all over them, and the next day gone. I have never had a problem since though, so I think that it def. can be from stress.

 

[Slakker]

If you aren't seeing any other signs at all, I wouldn't worry too much.

 

[GSMguy]

the white spots are ich i have seeen it on my own fish fed them well and it went away
Read the title of the thread it says "all over" and help sounds like a case for QT to me
many many fish live thru it many dont
the point is it is still ich

dont let this turn into the instinct debate the spots are ich.

i have seen no other diagnosis for white spots especially ones that restrict breathing

stresss ich= ich just a stupid LFS employee trying to make it sound like its the good kind of ich lol

like good cancer or good hepatitus it is not real.

 

[Slakker]

But half way down the thread the spots have also disappeared.

I agree, QT is the best option here, but if there are no other signs and the symptoms have disappeared, it might be okay.

 

[ArgonDreams]

I'm sorry but I can't agree Slakker. I am totally with GSMGuy on this one. This is Ich, and whether it disappeared or not could be part of it's natural cycle. The only real method to rid himself of it is to QT and treat. And I am sorry but with all respects to Mikey but he is painfully new to the hobby (We all were and some made these same mistakes) but it should have been quarantined from the start. I think it's dangerous to suggest he do hypo salinity. Where a copper treatment in a QT is relatively easy to do, maintaining hypo salinity is not for a brand spanking new person. I respect your opinion and agree on principle, I just think it's application in this case is off the mark.

Mikey, get yourself a small 10 gallon tank, you need one. Get a small light or get a kit that has one with a filter and light on it. Put your fish in it with some PVC plumping fittings so they can hide and treat them with a copper based product to be safe. Do this for 4 weeks and Ich should go away.

Also keep this tank in a closet or wherever and every time you get a new fish, you put them in this special tank to watch them and see how they do. They will eat better when they are alone, and you can check them for Ich or other disease and you can treat them alone. It usually takes 2-4 weeks for them.

Happy Reefing and do yourself a favor and get a QT tank, if you don't, you will lose your tank one day.

 

[Slakker]

I was brand spanking new when I began treating my Ocellaris clowns with hyposalinity, and both fish are recovering wonderfully. I've never done copper treatments, but Hypo hasn't been all that terrible to maintain.

However, if the general consensus is that copper is easier to do than hypo, go with copper. Either will be effective when done properly.

The initial cost of the QT for me was about $150, but well worth eliminating any risk of introducing various nasties to your main tank. QT absolutely everything before adding it to the display.

 

[ArgonDreams]

My QT tank cost me $58.00.

Tank $8 (Walmart!)
Air Pump $6
Airline Tubing $2
Bio-Filter 11: 2.99
Glass Top: 7.79
All-Glass Economy Hood: 14.49
Visi-Therm Heather: 16.19

I later replaced the incandescent bulbs with 50/50 Coralife bulbs to use with Corals and I have never had a problem with it. I mainly use it for fish.

 

[Slakker]

Mine was far more expensive scrambling around trying to assemble it in one day. I could have saved some serious cash had i planned ahead.

Personally, I'd hit up Lowes or Home Depot and pick up a sheet of Egg Crate light diffuser instead of the glass tops.

Also, instead of the hood, you could get a clip-on gooseneck desk lamp from wal-mart with some 6500k daylight bulbs for about the same price. A cheap timer for the light might be a good purchase, too. Luckily I had about 10 laying around at my house.

 

[GSMguy]

slakker read up on the life cycle of ich
it falls off the clowns and then lives in the sand only to come back weeks later.

thats why you must keep the display tank fishless for a month to let them die so even if symptoms clear up that means nothing. they can come back at anytime.