White spots on fins

[mandingCa]

Have lost almost all fish in last week...Amyloodinium/velvet seems to be the culprit.

Tank is about 4 months old. Sps reef. Feed 3x per day a variety of foods.
Salinity 1.024, temp 77-78, dKh 9-10

I have three fish left and they all have the same symptoms...white spots on the fins and some slightly dusty appearance on the fish skin. They are all itching against rocks.

The fish are: yellow coris wrasse, tri color fairy wrasse, Midas blenny.

I believe I will try to net the remaining fish and add them to the hospital tank...I have read the sticky pages and it seems a freshwater dip with a furan dip and then qt for 8-10 weeks.

I was shocked at how fast this spread....I have dealt with ich in the past, which is what I thought this was...

 

[MrTuskfish]

Velvet is a lot scarier than ich. A huge reason to use a QT with all new fish. The FW dip will give them some relief, but won't completely rid the fish of velvet. Copper, I prefer Cupramine is the med to use in the HT. Some folks are using CP and I wouldn't hesitate to use it, its much easier than copper. Your DT needs to stay fishless for about 8 weeks. Why the Furan? If this is velvet and fish are showing symptoms,, you have very little time.

 

[mandingCa]

White spots on fins

In the disease forum stickies, snorvich wrotes that a fw dip + furan bath will help, and then run the qt at 1.09.

Odd thing about the fish who are surviving...two wrasse, both show very little sign of the disease.

The Midas blenny eating well, has had it off and on for a couple weeks, which points more to ich.

I know I'll still have to net the wrasses at some point and leave the DT fallow for 8-10 weeks...or I guess I could just try all wrasses


My question is: what should I be treating for in the qt? Seems like my other fish all had white spots, some had lots of mucus, some had huge lumps on skin, most were breathing rapidly, some showed lots of symptoms, while some didn't show any symptoms and then the next day they were covered with white mucus and spots and the they die...


It's so confusing as I feel like I am seeing multiple diseases...and they all get treated a little different.

I suppose copper is a must, but what else?

 

[snorvich]

In the disease forum stickies, snorvich wrotes that a fw dip + furan bath will help, and then run the qt at 1.09.

A fresh water dip will alleviate symptoms of velvet (not ich) but not cure it. Hyposalinity works only with cryptocaryon irritans and only if executed properly which is difficult at best. I included hyposalinity in the stickies only for the sake of completion; I do not recommend it.

Odd thing about the fish who are surviving...two wrasse, both show very little sign of the disease.

About 5% of fish can develop immunity to velvet; that immunity lasts for about six months but during that time, they carry it but are unaffected.

The Midas blenny eating well, has had it off and on for a couple weeks, which points more to ich.

not from your description of the mortality time line

I know I'll still have to net the wrasses at some point and leave the DT fallow for 8-10 weeks...or I guess I could just try all wrasses


My question is: what should I be treating for in the qt? Seems like my other fish all had white spots, some had lots of mucus, some had huge lumps on skin, most were breathing rapidly, some showed lots of symptoms, while some didn't show any symptoms and then the next day they were covered with white mucus and spots and the they die...


It's so confusing as I feel like I am seeing multiple diseases...and they all get treated a little different.

Not knowing your tank history, you could easily be encountering multiple parasites, but velvet is a greater problem by far than ich. If you do not develop a quarantine protocol, you are fated to reencounter this type of situation.

I suppose copper is a must, but what else?