Who uses creatine in their reefs?

I have never heard that. I'm not sure why creatine would be useful. Do you have any links or other information on the idea?
 
no, I went to my lfs, and the guy there told me it would be beneficial. They had a 700gal sps tank set up that looked marvelous; so Im sure he knew what he was talking about. Its just that I never heard of anyone using this before and it intrigued me and I wanted to find out more info.
 
Well, I can't imagine what use it would be to corals. Theoretically, the fish might be able to get some effect from it, if they ingested it, but I'm skeptical at this point.
 
My ocellaris seems to be doing just fine......


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What exactly is in creatine?
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=10190673#post10190673 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Shift_9k
My ocellaris seems to be doing just fine......


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What exactly is in creatine?



LMAO :lol: :lol: :lol: now i have to clean my keyboard and screen off.
 
If you are going to drink the water then I am sure it would benefit YOU. Otherwise check out the price of the creatine they are selling at the LFS. I am sure it is 2-3 times more than what you can get it for at a health store.
 
Maybe he was confused by the amino acid names. L-Aspartic acid is an amino acid and is commonly used due to the fast uptake by the corals. And creatine is advertised (at least around here) as a "miracle" amino acid.
 
Creatine is an amino acid (amino acids are the building blocks of protein) which is made in the body by the liver and kidneys, and is derived from the diet through meat and animal products. Creatine is categorized as a food supplement by the Food and Drug Administration (like a vitamin) and is available over the counter at drug stores and nutrition centers.

http://www.mdausa.org/research/creatine.html

But...

Journal of Biological Rhythms, Vol. 9, No. 1, 1-12 (1994)
DOI: 10.1177/074873049400900101
© 1994 SAGE Publications

Light-Induced Phase Responses in Gonyaulax Are Drastically Altered by Creatine
Till Roenneberg
Institut für Medizinische Psychologie, Ludwig-Maximilians Universität München, Goethestrasse 31, 80336 München, Germany
Walter Taylor
Department of Cellular and Molecular Biology, Harvard University, 16 Divinity Avenue, Cambridge, Massachusetts 02138

The mammalian phosphagen creatine has been shown to shorten the circadian period ({tau}) of the bioluminescence rhythm in the marine alga Gonyaulax polyedra from 23 to 18 hr. The studies described here concern the interactive effects of creatine and light, mainly on the bioluminescence rhythm. We have found that the {tau}-shortening effect of creatine is greater in blue light, suggesting that it acts on a blue-sensitive light input pathway. In addition, creatine affects the phase response mechanism in Gonyaulax, which is also known to be mainly blue-sensitive. The responses to 4-hr light pulses are dramatically increased under the influence of creatine. The unusual phase response curve (PRC) of the Gonyaulax circadian system, which has no phase delays in the early night, is changed in the presence of creatine to a more typical type 0 PRC, with delays of up to 12 hr. Creatine also amplifies the cells' phototactic response, suggesting that the blue-sensitive light input pathway is shared by the phase-shifting mechanism of the bioluminescence oscillator and the mechanism responsible for phototaxis.

http://jbr.sagepub.com/cgi/content/abstract/9/1/1

SteveU
 
My understanding is that creatine is built of fragments of amino acids. In either case, it's a compound produced only by vertebrates.
 
The studies described here concern the interactive effects of creatine and light, mainly on the bioluminescence rhythm. We have found that the {tau}-shortening effect of creatine is greater in blue light, suggesting that it acts on a blue-sensitive light input pathway. In addition, creatine affects the phase response mechanism in Gonyaulax, which is also known to be mainly blue-sensitive. The responses to 4-hr light pulses are dramatically increased under the influence of creatine.

No magic answer, just that it does effect this algae.

SteveU
 
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