Why Diss the Aqua C Remora?

thanks for all the great info...i have been trying to determine to get an CSS or Aqua C HOB...decision has been made. Thanks again.
 
I think the major factor are the people who buy Remora's are probably people w/55g tanks (myself included) who have only had 1 tank and have been thru multiple "cost effective" skimmers, i.e. seaclone's and air stone skimmers the buy at Petco........when you take the plunge and spend $150 on a skimmer only to find that it blows the aforementioned skimmers out of the water, you're one happy reefer and come on these sites and rave about it's performance. You use it for awhile, then you come across the "Skimmate of the Day" thread and realize there's even better skimmers out there. So it's a continuous education type of thing really.
 
Here's the thing: The Remora isnt a BAD skimmer, but if cost was in line with performance, it would be down around $60. It just can't even come close to what your average non-Hob $150 skimmer can do.
 
Obviously, but the problem is that for those without a sump you are left with few options. I used to own a Remora Pro and it really did skim well for the size and cost. I believe I got one of the better ones as there seems to be some inconsistency in performance, but still a good little skimmer for the money. The CSS seems to be a good HOB, but they overflow quite often and the skimmate can be incredibly inconsistent. If I had to buy another HOB it would probably be the Remora Pro.
 
Rich hit on the head, until you have a real skimmer you dont know what you're missing.

One skimmer that I like and use is the CPR bac pac...but I have modified the maxijet with a NW...and plan on mounting a recirc NW. The square large body give lots of room for modification...it just takes some creativity.

If I had to buy one today, I probably wouldnt buy a bac pac or any HOB skimmer for that matter, but I had it laying around and put it to use :)

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Honestly, I think the best HOB out there is my Jebo (CPr Back pak clone). Why? Because it works just as well as all the other HOBs, and will cost you $39 with a pump.


If you want to spend $200 on a HOB, buy a Turboflotor. Theyre leagues better than the Remora, and probably better than the CSS, but not much different from the larger CSS.
 
In Display Skimming

In Display Skimming

There have always been renowned HOB skimmers, such as the Aqua Medic Turboflotor Multi SL. Unfortunately, their large pumps and return assemblies tended to be more appropriate for hanging on sumps than for hanging on display aquariums.

I submit that among the least obtrusive HOB skimmers for display aquariums are the Deltec MCE600 and MCE300. Their pumps are housed inside the skimmer body and are not immersed into the display tank. Other attractive options for “in-display” skimming are the Tunze 9010 and the Tunze Nano as they are compact and have a reputation for quiet operation.
 
THe Deltecs are decent, but the MCE300 is functionaly identicle to a CPR backpack, and significantly more expensive, and the 600 suffers from exactly what we're talking about here: Its $450 and performs like $150 in sump skimmer. Its just too SMALL to work all that well.


As to the tunzes, theyre nice skimmers, but c'mon, they in-tank. How is an in-tank skimmer less intrusive than a single pump?
 
because instead of a mechanical device like a maxijet pump, all you see of the Tunze Nano Skimmer is a black box in the corner of your tank that is 2" by 4". IMO thats hardly intrusive.
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=8560112#post8560112 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by ralphie16
because instead of a mechanical device like a maxijet pump, all you see of the Tunze Nano Skimmer is a black box in the corner of your tank that is 2" by 4". IMO thats hardly intrusive.

Its 5"x2", which is significantly larger than a MJ.


And again, now we're talking about skimmers that are physically too small to handle anything more than about 10g. The reaction chamber isnt big enough, and there isnt enough air. (tunzes claim of 52 gal is just as accurate as the turboflotor's claim of 250g)
 
I have A Remora Urchin Pro with a Mag 3 and this thing really kicks butt, yes it pulls out wet skimmate vs thick skimmate and requires regular cleaning of the collection cup however just because the skimmate is wet does not mean that it is less effective. There has been many studies and debates on skimmate and alot of the leading aquarists prefer wet vs dry due to the fact of more types of proteins are removed some even perform water changes thru their skimmers.
 
Actually I ran a 9002 in my 50gal until my sump was finished, and it's pretty close to doing fine in that conditions, even though I had SPS and Clams. You can actually tune the 9002 really easily to pull any sort of skimmate you want, and I was pulling a full cup everyday. It skims WAY better than any HoB, but the in-tank thing can be annoying for positioning it so cup doesn't hit lights/etc, and just general looks.
 
Prizum Pro, Seaclone, Berlin Turbo, numerous Power Head/Air Pump driven skimmers. The only other one that I was happy with is my E.T.S.S.
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=8560748#post8560748 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by cdentii1
Prizum Pro, Seaclone, Berlin Turbo, numerous Power Head/Air Pump driven skimmers. The only other one that I was happy with is my E.T.S.S.

What size ETSS?


This is exactly my point: generally people who are happy with their Remora, havent run a decent skimmer before.
 
The "Original Reef Devil" with a Mag 7 comparable to the 600 series.
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<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=8560770#post8560770 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by RichConley
What size ETSS?


This is exactly my point: generally people who are happy with their Remora, havent run a decent skimmer before.

BTW Good Point
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=8545237#post8545237 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by RichConley
Because there are a lot more newbies who havent used a good skimmer hanging around on Reef Talk than in here. In here tends to be the people who have used a lot of equipment.


Basically, there Remora isnt a very good skimmer, unfortunately, most of the people who are using them and satisfied, have never used a well designed skimmer.


I think this is a fair assessment of why so many people love them and at the same time so many people hate them.


That and people on the boards always adamantly defend their equipment choices for various reasons.

The best advice you can get is from the people who have owned both the remora and some of the other skimmers you might be looking at . only they can give you and accurate account of how they compared against each other.
 
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