why won't my 2 clowns, get in the anenome i have, or the frogspawn. the only thing i can think of, is that the anenome and the frogspawn are too small for them. the anenome has only been in for a day, so it's no big deal, but the frogspawn was in way before them. should i be concerned
why wont theyhost
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cdentii1
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Dude your tank has been only up and running for 2 months and a couple of weeks ago you lost how many fish? and now you have a anemone and frogspawn???????? and wonder why your clowns wont host, first off I pray that you have pristine water conditions and metal halide lighting or guess what you are most likely going to lose them as well. Do you still have the cyanobacteria problem? please do us all a favor and make a new thread and post some pics of your tank with specs. such as lighting type (M/H or P/C or VHO ECT.) Hours per day are they on a timer, watts, kelvin. Type of skimmer and model #, size of sump with actual qty of water and max water capicity, type of return pump (brand and model #) watts of heater, S.G., PH, Calcium. Do you have a Refigurm? how much substrate and type, Ect Ect Ect.... Basically anything and everything you can think of including live stock such as your anemone is it A sebae or long tenicale ect.. I do appoligize if I sound harsh in anyway, but we are here to help and this info could be very valuable to give proper guidance. I would have to say I only want success for your tank as it is sooooo easy to get discouraged after the loss of so many specimens in a short time frame and each and every aquarist makes this hobby stronger and better.
Dude your tank has been only up and running for 2 months and a couple of weeks ago you lost how many fish? and now you have a anemone and frogspawn???????? and wonder why your clowns wont host, first off I pray that you have pristine water conditions and metal halide lighting or guess what you are most likely going to lose them as well. Do you still have the cyanobacteria problem? please do us all a favor and make a new thread and post some pics of your tank with specs. such as lighting type (M/H or P/C or VHO ECT.) Hours per day are they on a timer, watts, kelvin. Type of skimmer and model #, size of sump with actual qty of water and max water capicity, type of return pump (brand and model #) watts of heater, S.G., PH, Calcium. Do you have a Refigurm? how much substrate and type, Ect Ect Ect.... Basically anything and everything you can think of including live stock such as your anemone is it A sebae or long tenicale ect.. I do appoligize if I sound harsh in anyway, but we are here to help and this info could be very valuable to give proper guidance. I would have to say I only want success for your tank as it is sooooo easy to get discouraged after the loss of so many specimens in a short time frame and each and every aquarist makes this hobby stronger and better.
29 gallon, marineland powerfilter, and heater, and 2 powerhead, an aquaclear 70 400 gph, and a MJ400, and, 130 watt pc 10000k, and 6700 k daylights and 7000 dual actinic(i think), lunar lights, Red sea prizm, aragonite fine grain sand, main lights on 9 hours, and actinics on for 2, and lunars at night. 35lbs of live rock, 30 pounds of substate, no refugium. And no i've finally gotten rid of the algae, and it was not cyano, it was diatoms. but they are gone, and they have quit building up on the rock. The 2 fish are doing great and the frogspawn is doing great, i also have several zoo's, and puling zenia, and a leather coral, 3 red mushrooms, and 1 green hairy. All of which are doing great. After doing some water changes the water parameters are doing great. i'm not overfeeding anymore, and the water stays clear, and everything is eating. the anenome seems to be doing real good, and it's a long tentacle. and the clowns are true percs.
redvipe2010
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Typically it is best to wait at least 6 months before introducing an anemone. What exactly are your water parameters, and how are you testing (what brand). What is the temp?
cdentii1
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The Anemone being a long tentacle require A DSB of 4-6" and can grow very large I know you are planing a 75G tank just take the plunge and get a 125 or even better yet a 180+:rollface: use caution with the long tentacle as well they have been known to sting humans on occasion. The lighting seems to be good for now I personally would swap out the 6700 k daylights and 7000 dual atinic for true actinic the I would consider running the lights on a 10 photo period with the atinics on 1/2hr before, during and after the 10k (assuming that is 260w total or 8.96watts per gallon) the clowns should readily take to the anemone and may have already done so if not they will (pactiance is a virtue in this hobby). I would also strongly suggest when you set up your 180 LOL I met to say 75 get metal halide lights and supplement with your pc for attinic lighting. I am sorry to see that you got the "Prizum" I had the pro series and it worked good for the couple of weeks or so then got way to finicky and required constant tweaking 2 or more times per day. when you get your 75 get a high quality skimmer (spare no expense as you will eventually get one anyway and save $$$$ in the long run) and again this is IMOP the single most important piece of equipment next to a RO/DI. next step get your attinic lights and set up a refigurm.
i'm not exactly sure if it is a long tentacle, in the store it was marked as a atlantic something anenome. It's kind of off white, and really small purple tips. It seems to be doing really good. I guess the clowns will take to it in their own time. thanks for the help. the test kit is aqaurium pharmacueticals.
cdentii1
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"atlantic something anenome"
There is a Atlantic anemone that is readily available and costs very little compared to other anemones' unfortunately clowns will not host in them, although as with every species there are exceptions however very very rare. if you could post a pic I am more than sure someone could identify it for you.
There is a Atlantic anemone that is readily available and costs very little compared to other anemones' unfortunately clowns will not host in them, although as with every species there are exceptions however very very rare. if you could post a pic I am more than sure someone could identify it for you.
jjackson
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some clowns also take time to go to the anemone... it is instinctual but also heavily a learned behavior.... but you should really post a picture... your tank is immature for all of the inhabitants.... an LTA in a tank that size is pushing it but a 75 will be PLENTY large... you dont need a 180 to keep an LTA....
I have a feeling you might have a cony and clowns will not host that.
I have a feeling you might have a cony and clowns will not host that.
Morphieus5150
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Clowns
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Still wondering what a Refigurm is????... Is that like one of those Refugium things that you grow weed in???.... Lol...
oops!!... I Meant Weeds...JK
Clowns
Still wondering what a Refigurm is????... Is that like one of those Refugium things that you grow weed in???.... Lol...
oops!!... I Meant Weeds...JK
55semireef
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First off, why would you recommend switching out the bulbs to a higher rating kelvin? That makes completely no sense. In this hobby, we should try to emulate the anemones natural enviroment to the best we can. Anemones live in shallow waters and ones such as the LTA receives inense lighting from the sun. That means they get a low spectrum, not a high actinic one that your recommending. A 6700 an 7000 K spectrum penetrate the water much deeper than actinic and gives the anemones the right kind of lighting they need. I am not saying don't go with true actinic, just don't overwhelm your anemone with actinic as you suggested.
cdentii1
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Well first off from his discription I don't believe it is a LTA but a Atlantic anemone I was not recommending to switch out to A higher K rating as he already has 10K (which simulates noon on the reef) I was suggesting changing the 6700 and 7000k to actinic which does penetrate water deeper as water filters out light first the reds then yellows and blue last which is actinic there is a symbiotic relationship with anemones, corals, clams ect.. and Zooxanthellae algae which is the main source of food for most corals and anemones which is grown by actinic lighting. I have a sebae anemone a good deal of this species nutrition is derived photosynthetically for 4.5yrs now under 10k M/H and actinic P/C lighting and is doing very well.
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its not about english being your best subject I dont care about bad spelling, but the fact that it was listed as refigurm in your post and your signature tells me that you actually pronounce it that way... I mean I could understand english being poor and it being reefuggeeum or something but not something that far off...
all and all if you are going to give advice know something about what you are saying... the whole minimum suggested tank size for an LTA was way off.
and also... if you are going to take advice make sure it is good advice cause sometimes you will be told the entirely wrong thing.....
Re: Re: Clowns
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=8293059#post8293059 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by cdentii1
oops ahh refigurmwell lets say English was not one of my best subjects ummm yea yea its one of those things you grow weeds in or something.... I think. LMAO Ill get around to changing that.
its not about english being your best subject I dont care about bad spelling, but the fact that it was listed as refigurm in your post and your signature tells me that you actually pronounce it that way... I mean I could understand english being poor and it being reefuggeeum or something but not something that far off...
all and all if you are going to give advice know something about what you are saying... the whole minimum suggested tank size for an LTA was way off.
and also... if you are going to take advice make sure it is good advice cause sometimes you will be told the entirely wrong thing.....
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