hehe, yeah. I was going to contact a few banned RC ppl for help. I'm still debating whether or not to go reef. I've talked to Dave B. about a Deltec that should handle the water volume, so if i do end up going reef, I should have adequate skimming. I've planned enough room to give myself some space if I do decide to go w/ a huge sump/refugium. It's hard finding good help in Santa Barbara!!! First off, I need to get a tank so that I have the dimensions to give to the construction guys. I've contacted So Cal Creations as well as some other places, I'm sure I'll have to make a decision by the end of next week.