Zoa not opening after transfer to another tank!!

[michaelis88]

I recently built up a frag tank that is 10 gallon tank with one power head and filter that has carbon and filterfloss in it. I added new live sand but the water is from my old established tank that is 10 months old.
The thing is after I transfer all my fragged zoa into new tank, they were first open on the first day then some of them start to close and stays closed. Its been like almost a week now. Right now has 50% of zoa are not opening, there are all kinds of zoa such as orange muals, devil amor, regular pink etc. Does any one know what is causing they not opening, or its normal, and i should wait for weeks.
I dont believe there is bug or nudi or pest, cuz the water is from the big tank and they were opening. So now maybe the lighting caused the problem??

my old tank is Red sea max 250------------------------------------10g frag tank
6 T5 bulbs ------------------------------------------------------------ 1 par led 38bulb with 24 watts (6blue,2white, 1red, 1yellow,2UV?) is hanging 20inch from the top
nitrate 0--------------------------------------------------------------- The water is from the big tank,one big live rock,one small power head and one aqua clear filter
phosphate 0-----------------------------------------------------------one clown fish but feeding 4 tiny mysis shrimp per day
kh 7.5
ca 420
ph 7.9-8.1
Temp 23-25C
All reading from API test kit, I know pho and nitrate cant be 0 but should be slightly off cuz the test kit isnt that good, at least its from my reading

a pic when they were in main tank

this is the pic now in frag tank, Also noticed red slime algae floating and attaching to frags, I have tried to brushed them off, can this cause the issue?

tank set up

 

[A. Grandis]

You probably didn't let the tank cycle properly and/or had some trouble with your fragging.
Your light is kinda weird, pink(?)

Grandis.

 

[michaelis88]

You probably didn't let the tank cycle properly and/or had some trouble with your fragging.
Your light is kinda weird, pink(?)

Grandis.

1. I didnt know I still need to cycle cuz the water is from the old tank and sand is live sand. So, I still need to do that?>
2. I dont think fraging is issue, cuz they were all open before i moved them so not that
3. my iphone camera is weird, can only catch the blue color not white, but in real, its brighter instead of pink or purple

 

[A. Grandis]

1. I didnt know I still need to cycle cuz the water is from the old tank and sand is live sand. So, I still need to do that?>
2. I dont think fraging is issue, cuz they were all open before i moved them so not that
3. my iphone camera is weird, can only catch the blue color not white, but in real, its brighter instead of pink or purple

1. You do need to cycle any tank no matter what. Now you know.
2. Good. Hope so.
3. That must be a girl's phone then! :wildone:
LOL!!! Just kidding.

You need to move them back to the old system and start to cycle the new tank.
Problem solved! :dance:

Grandis.

 

[michaelis88]

1. You do need to cycle any tank no matter what. Now you know.
2. Good. Hope so.
3. That must be a girl's phone then! :wildone:
LOL!!! Just kidding.

You need to move them back to the old system and start to cycle the new tank.
Problem solved! :dance:

Grandis.

no, its the beginning....now I already have a snowflake clown fish in the tank that I cant move it to the old tank cuz I alraedy have two clown fish in there. Also would be hard to catch it after I put him in.....
Or do you think another water change from big tank would work?

 

[A. Grandis]

No, I'm sorry, but if the problem is cycling, water changes won't work.
I'm just telling you the truth.
There is no way around it.
Trust me on that.
I wish the problem wouldn't be cycling, but by what you're saying that's what it is.
If you don't cycle the tank the zoas will suffer long time and possible die.
Good luck.

Grandis.

 

[pmcarbrey]

No, I'm sorry, but if the problem is cycling, water changes won't work.
I'm just telling you the truth.
There is no way around it.
Trust me on that.
I wish the problem wouldn't be cycling, but by what you're saying that's what it is.
If you don't cycle the tank the zoas will suffer long time and possible die.
Good luck.

Grandis.

+1

Water does not a cycled tank make! Every organism in your tank produces ammonia as waste. Ammonia is highly toxic to fish and corals which is why we cycle tanks before we add anything. Water provides so little nitrifying bacteria that it isn't even worth accounting for it, the only significant amount that you have provided is in the live sand.

Live sand does not a cycled tank make! All that the addition of live sand does is provide a larger starting point, you start with more bacteria therefor it takes less time for them to multiply to the numbers needed. Unfortunately in this hobby there is no such thing as an instant cycle, you have to be patient and wait for nature to do its thing!

 

[A. Grandis]

And... the clown fish in the new tank will die too!
Better remove all the zoas/fishes from the new tank today and bring them back to the old system ASAP!
The old system has plenty room for them!
Not a big deal at all. :thumbsup:

Grandis.

 

[michaelis88]

Update my zoa is covered with white slime now. 2 out of 20 frags

I've tried to brush it off and rinse with tank water but don't know what this is at all. I'm sure I don't have pest. So it must be something with water

 

[michaelis88]

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Update my zoa is covered with white slime now. 2 out of 20 frags

I've tried to brush it off and rinse with tank water but don't know what this is at all. I'm sure I don't have pest. So it must be something with water

 

[A. Grandis]

Well, at least you think it's with the water...
... that didn't go through a proper cycle.
And a possible problem with the fragging too (infection).
And you're still running the system like that?
Can't you see that everything inside there will die?
Your water must be smelling rotten!!
That's a very sad ending.
I'm sorry.

Grandis.

 

[pmcarbrey]

stress from fragging plus ammonia and nitrites from an uncycled tank means weak and sickly zoas! dip all of them and put them back where they belong!

 

[650-IS350]

for that white slime, i've done peroxide dips... but from reading from condition of your tank and corals I don't know if they would survive the dips.

 

[A. Grandis]

Stop brushing them. That won't help, but make things worse!
The 2 with the white stuff are goners.
The rest you can dip in with Lugol's and still try to save them, if you do it today.
8-10 oz of fresh water and 5 drops of lugol's solution for about a minute.
After that please transfer all polyps immediately to the old system.
Hope to see pictures of them in the old system recovering from this tragic mistake.
Good luck!

Grandis.

 

[650-IS350]

when you dip you can use a turkey baster to gently blow off any debris off the corals.

 

[michaelis88]

Stop brushing them. That won't help, but make things worse!
The 2 with the white stuff are goners.
The rest you can dip in with Lugol's and still try to save them, if you do it today.
8-10 oz of fresh water and 5 drops of lugol's solution for about a minute.
After that please transfer all polyps immediately to the old system.
Hope to see pictures of them in the old system recovering from this tragic mistake.
Good luck!

Grandis.

do you recommend do water change with old tank water or new salt water?

 

[michaelis88]

when you dip you can use a turkey baster to gently blow off any debris off the corals.

but im afraid that they will spread out in my old water tank, and kill all my others. In my big tank , I have much more expensive stuff, dont want to risk. Do you know this slime will ever spread?