Zoas wont close

windowlicker916

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Noticed a couple heads on several mini colonies havent been closing...infact it looks like they are opened like an umbrella.

Touching them or feeding will not prompt them to close.

Searched around and i see everyone worried about them not opening but what does it mean when they wont close?
 
I actually would love to know why that (the umbrella syndrome) happens.
Could be a lack of water flow.
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Maybe it has something to do with the dissolved organic compounds in the water.
Too many water changes/ high percentage, or the use of activated carbon in excess (non stop) with a good skimmer.
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Could be the presence of any element/compound in excess.
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Maybe the combination of some of the above aspects.

Grandis.
 
My water is fairly clean and i dont run carbon. I dont have a godly skimmer either.

One thing i am trying ia moving one of the effected frags into more flow and higher light to see what happens.
 
I recently had a theory on this, in humans an excess of calcium can cause hyper flexion in muscles. since we use calcium in our tanks I was wondering if an excess of calcium would cause a hyper flexion in our corals or fish. Just a theory, nothing more.
 
I recently had a theory on this, in humans an excess of calcium can cause hyper flexion in muscles. since we use calcium in our tanks I was wondering if an excess of calcium would cause a hyper flexion in our corals or fish. Just a theory, nothing more.

Good theory but at nsw levels I wouldn't think so. Or even for slightly raised levels I wouldn't think it would cause an issue such as this. I have several small colonies that don't close most nights as well. Not sure what causes this.


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I have a large variety of zoas...and it seems like the only time they close is when its pitch dark. If there is a hint of light...they still open slightly.
 
The unusual title of this thread caught my eye. Usually people complain that their zoos won't OPEN, not that they won't CLOSE! :lol:

I think we've got two issues going here, "umbrella syndrome" and closing in general.

IMHO, umbrella syndrome seems to be a sign of stress or discomfort, but can often pass without apparent or obvious effort or changes. And just to be clear, what I mean by umbrella syndrome is when it looks as though someone has pulled the skirt down on a given polyp such that the polyp assumes an umbrella or mushroom shape with the mouth and oral disk bulging upwards and the skirt looking peeled back or drooping.

And while umbrella shapes polyps do often recover, I've also seen them not recover, become very thin stalked and eventually melt.

It would be awesome if we could come up with what we think the cause of umbrella syndrome is and how to keep it recoverable instead of the first step towards eventual melting.

Grandis has offered up some good theories and I'd lean towards an environmental cause as well (water, flow, light, etc.). Could also be a reaction to internal infection or a parasite, though the parasite paradigm doesn't seem to fit my observations.

Any other thoughts?
 
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