1073.090 very noisy

loknar28

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I just turned the pump on after finishing the plumbing and it is making alot of noise. It sounds like most of the noise is from vibration. Is this going to get better. It is vibrating the bottom of the cabinet. I am attaching some shots of the pump and plumbing for your review. Don't ask about the color of the water,lol. It is from the dry tonga rock that I am using for base.

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I notice two major issues which will lead to noisy pump and creating back pressure to you pump.

1. Putting an elbow right after the swing check valve especially it is less than 24" H will create lots of back pressure. noise and shorten the life of your pump. (recommendation: run the return pipe as high as you can and split it into a Tee, each end of your Tee will feed each return. Does it make any sense?

2. From the pic look like you reduce from 1.5 to 1" which is fine but i would run the 1.5" pipe as far as possibly can to avoid back pressure (Recommendation: run your 1.5" pipe all the way to the bulk head and reduce it there. Which mean you need to replumb your tank all over with 1.5" pipe and ballvalve.
 
I tested this pump before I plumbed it into the system in the bath tub and it was just as noisy then. I was hoping that when it was installed in a system with the approprate back presure that it would quiet down. Also it is split into two 1" pipes from 1.5", not just reduced.
 
I am certanly not happy with a noisy pump. I asked Roger about using 1" pipe. He said I should use two instead of just reducing it, which is what I did. As I said this pump was noisy from the start. Anyway, From what I understand some of the first pumps had faulty bearings and needed to be retrofitted with new ones. I am thinking maybe this pump was one that slipped through.
 
May be Roger can input his opinion since he is the master of this master pump :). Roger, i will be calling you this after noon approx 3pm my time. Can you PM me your Cell again.
thanks
 
That is my hope. Another thing to consider is that it is only pumping from under the cabinet to the tank. The distance it is having to pump the water up is maybe 4-5 feet.
 
I'm not sure how much room you will have but i wouldn't put an elbow right after the swing check valve. It will choke your pump a little bit. JMO
 
It was not a bearing it was the cover plate or volute, it was from a 50Hz pump and the wrong dimensions internally and this allowed the impeller to rub on it. We replaced all of them except 2 and unless you bought it used from someone in Texas as those 2 were raffled by the local reef club and I have not been able to track them down, yours will have the new piece. The pump is not dead silent and never will be, it is a large pump and it should be quieter than any air cooled pump but it will never equal the noise level of a much smaller pump like an Eheim. I would give it a bit of time, they do tend to be noisier at first, the impeller is huge, it literally runs almost the entire length of that block and as a result some air is always trapped inside when they are new, it takes about a week in my experience to get all the air out. I think your plumbing is OK but rigid plumbing always conducts more vibration. The best solution is to place a rubber pad under the pump and then use the screw tabs on the pump base to fasten it down so it cannot vibrate and reverberate off the plumbing. The only other thing I can say is I have gotten pumps back for noise that had gotten debris like gravel inside of them and this will definitely make noise but it is a screeching noise and not vibration. You have to be very careful opening the pump as the shaft is ceramic, it is about the diameter of a pencil and you couldn't break it in your bare hands but with the leverage of removing the volute, if you pull it to one side it will break, it has to be pulled gently with a straight back motion.
 
I will try using some mouse pads under it, cut the pipe and use some rubber couplings. I will also give it some more time. However if these measures do not take care of the problem I will need to contact you again for a different remedy. I expect some noise, like maybe the level of a dish washer but this is closer to a large window AC unit on full blast.
 
Please just give it sometime, I promise we will resolve it, I think your noise analogy is correct, it should sound about like a dishwasher.
 
forgive me if I am just not seeing this right in the pic, but it looks like you have placed your osmolater sensor in an area that will not drop as water evaporates. Just an observation.
 
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