2 pairs of clowns 1 tank ok???

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I fave a small pair of false perks. Today I saw some nude clowns....have to have some.

But will they kill each other? It's a 4foot 150 gallon.
 
In that size tank you may be okay. Problem is when the bond they will get aggressive.

If you do
Decide to do put them together it would work best if they had multiple things to host as far away as possiblr
 
All clowns are born as males. The more aggressive, and dominant one will out grow the others and become a female. There is no "Pairs", clownfish almost live like a bee hive in anemones and they have a queen.

You'll notice on clown picking on the others.. thats the female :mixed:.

Reason why clowns are added at the same time so that they can decide who is female.

Multiple different species of clowns is a no go.
 
not to cause a war, but i have a 120g 4x2x2, and I have a pair of oc, a pair of picassos, and a blue line clarkii (if that's correct name?), and they live peacefully. but what i do notice, is that fishes seem to get along better when theres lots of fishes. if there's only a few/couple of other fishes, and you have two pairs of clowns, they will seek out each other and fight. It works for me, and always have (used to have pair of onyx, pair of b/w oc, and a maroon in a 180g and they coexisted peacefully as well) but I have lots of fish (I mean A LOT!), more than the "god of reef aquariums" will ever allow LOL, but everything thrives and do just fine.
I suggest that you only do it if theres a good amount of fish in your tank, this seems to usually have them distracted and the clowns almost kind of stick together (all species) somehow, at least for me.
JUST SPEAKING FROM EXPERIENCE, I'M NO EXPERT (FAR FROM IT ACTUALLY). YOU MAY EXPERIENCE SOMETHING DIFFERENT, DO IT AT YOUR OWN RISK, I'M NOT RELIABLE IF YOUR FISHES GO NUTS LOL. But all jokes aside, this hobby is all about trying different things, and doing what works best for you, some "god of reef aquariums" may go crazy on you (like i may be getting myself into here) but if in the end, you get the result you wish, then the method of getting there is only our own unique approach.
I SAY, GO FOR IT!!
 
jthao said:
not to cause a war, but i have a 120g 4x2x2, and I have a pair of oc, a pair of picassos, and a blue line clarkii (if that's correct name?), and they live peacefully. but what i do notice, is that fishes seem to get along better when theres lots of fishes. if there's only a few/couple of other fishes, and you have two pairs of clowns, they will seek out each other and fight. It works for me, and always have (used to have pair of onyx, pair of b/w oc, and a maroon in a 180g and they coexisted peacefully as well) but I have lots of fish (I mean A LOT!), more than the "god of reef aquariums" will ever allow LOL, but everything thrives and do just fine.
I suggest that you only do it if theres a good amount of fish in your tank, this seems to usually have them distracted and the clowns almost kind of stick together (all species) somehow, at least for me.
JUST SPEAKING FROM EXPERIENCE, I'M NO EXPERT (FAR FROM IT ACTUALLY). YOU MAY EXPERIENCE SOMETHING DIFFERENT, DO IT AT YOUR OWN RISK, I'M NOT RELIABLE IF YOUR FISHES GO NUTS LOL. But all jokes aside, this hobby is all about trying different things, and doing what works best for you, some "god of reef aquariums" may go crazy on you (like i may be getting myself into here) but if in the end, you get the result you wish, then the method of getting there is only our own unique approach.
I SAY, GO FOR IT!!
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Thats a rare case, sometimes they get along and sometimes not... if all the clowns have their own anemone then sometimes they will stay put in the anemone and avoid eachother... but there is still a high risk of fighting to the death.
 
One clown will be the dominate female and one clown will be the dominate male all others are will remain sexually immature. If the female should perish the dominate male will become the female and one of the sexually immature clowns will become the dominate male. This is not like a bee hive, the female only spawns with dominate male.

If you introduce all young juvenile clowns a dominate pair will develop and the rest will be sexually immature. The female will become deathly aggressive with any other clown that she senses has the potential to become a female or is already a female, and any potential male that is not subservient or rejected.

With the use of host anemones and plenty of territories you could introduce juvenile clowns. With any type of Damsel you always run the risk of aggression breaking out, but there are many hobbyist that keep multiple clowns in larger aquariums successfully. Choose sexually immature clowns initially and be prepared with a back up plan should aggression become an issue down the line.
 
You cannot have two pairs, but if they are young, they will do OK in a group most of the time.

I raise clown fish, and over breed and have too many clown fish in my tank. I have to do something so I add some of my nicer babies to my reef tanks that have mature pairs in them.
On one of my tank, there is a Haddoni, no clown fish, 30 gal cube. I added 8 clowns 4 A. percula and 4 SnowOnyx all about 1 inches. The four Percula all do well in this tank, but the 4 SnowOnyx all disappeared over 2 night. No jumping into overflow or jump out side of tank. A big mystery to me. Maybe the Haddoni ate all four.
I added 12 babies clowns various type. Several A. percula, several SnowOnyx, Several Phantom, and two Platinum Percular. The tank have a pair of Picasso sub mature. Tank is a 30X30X30 with one Haddoni and one Maximini. All doing well. Some bickering and the large Picasso pair are Queen and King but they don't realy go after the young fish anymore.

IN another tank, another 30 inches cube, there are three S. gigantea, and a mature SnowOnyx pair, laying eggs. I added 3 SnowOnyx and three A. percula. Over flow of this tank is screen by 1/2 egg crates. Easy let the baby clowns to pass through. I added three A. percula and 3 SnowOnyx. One of the Snow Onyx got his face ripped by the male, and loss 1/2 of the upper jaws, after a week or so, they let him and another SnowOnyx stay in the anemones with them. Two of the Percula and one of the SnowOnyx got chase into the overflow box (huge, about 10 gals) They live there fine and is growing. I add food into the overflow box for them. One of the Percula get abuse by the 4 fish in the tank (two adult SnowOnyx and two juvi snow Onyx). He is not allow in the three Gigantea but reside in a Frogspawn coral and is doing great there.

On the whole, Ocellaris tend to tolerate Juvi more than Percula or PerculaXOcellaris.
 
smtank said:
One clown will be the dominate female and one clown will be the dominate male all others are will remain sexually immature. If the female should perish the dominate male will become the female and one of the sexually immature clowns will become the dominate male. This is not like a bee hive, the female only spawns with dominate male.

If you introduce all young juvenile clowns a dominate pair will develop and the rest will be sexually immature. The female will become deathly aggressive with any other clown that she senses has the potential to become a female or is already a female, and any potential male that is not subservient or rejected.

With the use of host anemones and plenty of territories you could introduce juvenile clowns. With any type of Damsel you always run the risk of aggression breaking out, but there are many hobbyist that keep multiple clowns in larger aquariums successfully. Choose sexually immature clowns initially and be prepared with a back up plan should aggression become an issue down the line.
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+1....best answer given here :thumbsup:
 
Calappidae said:
There is no "Pairs", clownfish almost live like a bee hive in anemones and they have a queen.
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This is incorrect information. Clownfish definitely will pair up, and what you will end up with is a scenario as smtank described. When observing wild clowns, what you have stated may appear to be truth, but in our home aquaria with very limited space the territorial behavior of clowns comes out.
 
You will always be able to find cases where things like this work, but it is unfortunately not the norm. The problem herein is that some people choose to only see the few who have made it work as a sign of what they are likely to encounter, rather than the full picture of many more cases where it hasn't worked. The problem with going in in such a project even with the best intentions of removing fish if aggression shows, is that there very well may not be much aggression seen by the tank owner until fish have gone missing and are killed by the pair.

My rule of thumb whenever I answer this question (which comes up more than it should IMHO) is: if you have to ask if more than one pair is ok, you don't yet have the knowledge base to make a successful attempt at the project.

Who is Marvin? Did you mean Mobert? If you are referring to "27 clowns for 27 months" even she saw some aggression and had fish dying near the end of that thread. Please post a link
 
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I think in Mobert's thread, she ended up with 11 clowns when she started with 27 of them.
You can have multiple Ocellaris, Percula and Pink Skunk. These are the most docile of the clowns. However, only done mature pair with the rest immature.
 
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