I just might take you up on that. Thanks for the heads up. Dont know if I qualify as a North Easterner but Id sure like to do a sit in and listen to others expierences. Never hurts to talk to people about the hobby especally some who have been in it for along time. Ive been in for awhile but I learn something every day on forums. Thats pretty much what keeps me in it in the first place. I get bored easily and to be honest if I mastered this by now Id have moved on to Chinchillas, or South American Howler Monkeys or some other crazy animal that offered a challenge lol. Ive pretty much tried everything else I was ever interested in and it came to that point it just bored me sooner or later. I like the challenge definetly and the work is worth the reward at least to me. I used to have a FW tank for several years just bored me. Its was like yep there they are swimmng yippee skippy. No big deal, throw a new stone in just to change up the look . Tear it down move it to another corner like a piece of furniture. I find with the SW reef you gotta be on your toes, when its thriving it becomes undeniable that you understand a complex system and a diversified set of priciples. In other words you cant be a dummy and be a stellar reefer the knowledge is displayed for all to view. Now if I could just get a better Avatar Ib be happy. lol. Whats with the substandard pixel requirments? Thats bunk!