250 Gallon Starphire SPS tank

I got a pic of my yellow monti that shows its pplyps not coming out.

Before.
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Now.
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Has anybody ever has this happen?

The monti has grown a little and no other SPS show this symptom. I am lost as to a cause.
 
littlesilvermax said:
Yes, it is.:D

Sweet! Much easier than fooling with bare probes!

Hey, out of curiosity, what thickness glass is your 100 gal sump built from? I've been thinking of looking into glass prices to build a sump or fuge and was just curious what thickness is used on a sump typically. I'm guessing it doesn't need to be 1/2" like my tank...

Tyler
 
tgunn said:
Hey, out of curiosity, what thickness glass is your 100 gal sump built from? I've been thinking of looking into glass prices to build a sump or fuge and was just curious what thickness is used on a sump typically. I'm guessing it doesn't need to be 1/2" like my tank...

Tyler

The sump is 3/8 glass, bigger then many would build, but I would stick with 3/8.
 
littlesilvermax said:
Do you know for sure?

I am so sad.:(

I'm 99% sure. There might be one spot on that piece containing a little tissue, but it looks like it RTN'd to me. Especially if it happened over one day's time. Rapid Tissue Neucrosis is visibly indicated when a section bleaches white (like yours) and travels quickly across the rest of the coral. If you ever see a coral start to bleach in one area, you might consider pulling it out immediately, cutting off the bleached area <b>and</b> a half inch of healthy tissue to stop RTN in its tracks. Another way you can determine if it is RTN is when the whole piece bleaches but no algae has grown on it at all.

One more thing to watch for. If you happen to see your SPS piece with some type of milky mucous floating off of it, that is how RTN occurs. Healthy tissue is literally sloughing off the coral, and a turkey baster can blow it off, but you'll see more tissue going with it.

SPS are beautiful, but can be mysterious they way they suddenly just give up even though everything seems fine. Sure, we can overheat the tank, or overdose the water with kalkwasser accidentally, but what is really aggravating is when all is perfect, and the coral (the one you just noticed the day before has really been doing great) suddenly dies. :(

As you can see, I've had a little experience with this. I grew a small birdsnest frag (a veritable twig, so small I couldn't believe I was gluing to a rock in the first place) grew into a lovely golf ball shape. I had just commented how nicely it grew and how it was hard to believe it came from that dot of tissue so long ago, and the next day it was white/dead. :mad:
 
That's the one thing that really scares me about SPS. I love the look of them but I know I'll be sick if/when RTN happens to a nice colony or frag.

Chris
 
Yep, it is really discouraging. The trick is to have SO MANY that you hardly notice a loss. ;)
 
I really need to get better in photography skills. (Maybe in the fall) I will explain that statement better:

The yellow in the two pics should look the same, the yellow has not changed color. The coral has not sloughed any tissue. In fact I can still see purple polyps that are just fully retracted.:) It is just that the poyps do not come out anymore, even at 4 am.:(
 
Yes, I can see them now. And you say the tissue is actually still yellow in real life? Bright yellow, or barely yellow?
 
Well, in that case (unbelievable how different it looks), polyp extention isn't necessarily an indicator of decline nor of improvement. We have discovered that some SPS will extend polyps fully while other corals are very happy with little polyp extension.

You might try finding a spot with lesser flow to see if it opens up more. Maybe it is being pounded, or maybe it isn't as hungry as you might think.
 
From the pics, it looks like the coral has bleached somewhat but is still alive.

If it was dead type bleached, it would be pure white, with no signs of polyps or colour, except algae growth.

At least thats been my experience. I have had various cup corals come back from that but not montipora.
 
bleached, had it happen many times.. If it is a strong coral it will pull through but it takes serious time...
 
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