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Ariela

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We are new to this hobby and have been doing lots of reading! I wanted to post our plan and see if there are any quick suggestions you guys have for us before we start cycling.

Coralife 29G Biocube with Stand
Stock fans replaced with Vantec Stealth Fans
inTank Media Rack, poly filter floss, puregen, chemipure elite
Tunze 9001 Protein Skimmer
Stock pump
Stock lights(for now)
2 Jäger 50 watt heaters
Vortech MP 10
~29lbs live rock
~15 lbs CaribSea Aargonite + 10lbs CaribSea live Sand
Instant Ocean mix and RODI water

Although feeling somewhat overwhelmed already, we would appreciate suggestions for improvement! :lolspin:
 
Welcome to this fun, overwhelming, expensive and sometimes stressful hobby. Post pictures of your setup. Puregen and chempure elite basically does the same. Filter floss should be replace often to prevent detritus. I usually don't run any. Invest in an Auto Top Off (ato) to prevent salinity swings and use RO/DI water. If you don't have a test kit for your water parameters, I suggest you invest in them. One last tip. Patience and stability is key to a successful Nano reef tank.
 
Thanks! We have a test kit and RODI maker enroute. Didn't think the ATO was a necessity but will definitely consider that! Planning to change the floss at least weekly, didn't realize the other two were redundant...will discuss that with the hubby!
 
Without an ato, you will not be able to tune the skimmer.

+1

Purigen and chemipure pretty much do the same thing, only difference is chemipure is carbon and GFO, where as purigen is a propitiatory media that does the same thing.

Personally I run filter floss, purigen, and carbon(carbon is in a reactor now so bottom shelf is empty in my media rack) in my InTank media rack.

Instant ocean salt while is OK for a FOWLR tank, you will want to go with reef crystals or something similiar thats specifically formulated for a reef system. Its the extra trace elements in a reef salt that you will miss in a plain salt mix. A good reef salt will get you started right without having to dose anything for a long time.

Just a small FYI, you'll want to change that filter floss ever couple days to reduce nitrates. I change mine 3 times a week. The el cheapo pillow stuffing from your local craft supply store is the way to go. A huge bag of the stuff is like 5$ compared to 19$ for actual filter floss thats half the size at your LFS. Personally I think the el chapo stuff works better.
 
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I've done reefing for years without an ATO. I added one to my 29 biocube, and I'll never have another tank without one. It's so nice! I went with the Tunze nano 9152. Good luck, and have fun
 
Purigen and chemipure pretty much do the same thing, only difference is chemipure is carbon and GFO, where as purigen is a propitiatory media that does the same thing.

I don't mean to be particular, but this perked my ears (you know, those ears I listen to conversations over the internet on reefcentral forums with). I always understood Purigen to be specific to ammonia/nitrogen cycle related function, where as carbon was very much for broad-spectrum absorbtion.

I checked on Seachem's site, and they specifically state:
Purigen® controls ammonia, nitrites and nitrates by removing nitrogenous organic waste that would otherwise release these harmful compounds. Purigen’s™ impact on trace elements is minimal.

As I understand it, carbon absorbs everything available, good or otherwise, and has a pretty significant impact on trace elements.

Maybe Seachem has a specific porosity in Purigen to only absorb certain compounds? Maybe it's all marketing mumbo-jumbo? I dunno for sure, but I just wanted to clarify this, that it's advertised as specifically absorbing compounds as part of the nitrogen cycle, instead of just broad-spectrum like carbon.

Instant ocean salt while is OK for a FOWLR tank, you will want to go with reef crystals or something similiar thats specifically formulated for a reef system. Its the extra trace elements in a reef salt that you will miss in a plain salt mix. A good reef salt will get you started right without having to dose anything for a long time.

Bah. I started my tank with instant ocean, and many long-time reefers use it as their primary salt. Randy Holmes-Farley, ReefCentral's chemist-in-residence uses Instant Ocean, with added magnesium. You'd still need to adjust ReefCrystals to your specific application. The only reason to try other salts is that it seems like for whatever reason (or maybe just more people use it so you see more complaints) IO and RC precipitate calcium more often than other salts.

I believe the formula for IO and RC are almost identical, with RC having boosted alkalinity and calcium contents (and probably magnesium to hold them in suspension at higher levels). In theory, all of the salts should do the same thing and provide the same product. They all have a little "extra seasoning" here and there, but at the end of the day, you'll be fine with any of the main brands, especially early in the hobby.

The most important thing about salt with aquariums is that you're using it. 10-20% water changes bi-weekly. Everything else is debatable (and fine, yes, that's debatable too).

Since we're on the subject, I'd strongly recommend investing in a salinity refractometer to make sure you're measuring your salt levels properly (and EASILY; hydrometers are a pain, and mixing based on measurements on the bag WILL BE WRONG). You should be able to find one used for $20-$40, or new for $40-$100 (I don't think I've spent more than $45 on a refractometer, and they last a very long time).
 
Thanks for the great feedback everyone; I really appreciate it. With regards to the ATO, are any of you running the Tunze Nano, and do you like it?

Also, once we actually get some water in this darn thing, I am assuming that we only need to have our pump and heater on to cycle the live rock? Lights, media basket, skimmer, ATO all get added once we have some livestock?
 
Since we're on the subject, I'd strongly recommend investing in a salinity refractometer to make sure you're measuring your salt levels properly (and EASILY; hydrometers are a pain, and mixing based on measurements on the bag WILL BE WRONG). You should be able to find one used for $20-$40, or new for $40-$100 (I don't think I've spent more than $45 on a refractometer, and they last a very long time).

We have one on order, and now I feel good about it too! :lolspin:
 
With regards to the ATO, are any of you running the Tunze Nano, and do you like it?

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I am running the tunze ATO in my biocube and would do it again. will never have another tank without a ATO. I have the float switch in the return chamber and the water line in the second. keeps water level and salinity spot on. just have to clean it from time to time.
 
Thanks for the great feedback everyone; I really appreciate it. With regards to the ATO, are any of you running the Tunze Nano, and do you like it?

Also, once we actually get some water in this darn thing, I am assuming that we only need to have our pump and heater on to cycle the live rock? Lights, media basket, skimmer, ATO all get added once we have some livestock?

Tunze's ATOs have traditionally been top-notch in quality and function, but I have never used an ATO, so I can't offer advice from experience.

Pump and heater. I wouldn't really run lights until later in the cycle (to minimize algae growth), and I wouldn't add any media other than filter floss (or other inert mechanical media) until you're well on your way to setting up your tank (i.e. don't run carbon/purigen/GFO until you have things going on in your tank).

Skimmer you can run during the cycle. The increased oxygen/aeration will be helpful. ATO is helpful, it's nice to have the time for you to get acquainted with it without having to rely on it.
 
+1
Its the extra trace elements in a reef salt that you will miss in a plain salt mix. A good reef salt will get you started right without having to dose anything for a long time.

Bah. I started my tank with instant ocean, and many long-time reefers use it as their primary salt. Randy Holmes-Farley, ReefCentral's chemist-in-residence uses Instant Ocean, with added magnesium. You'd still need to adjust ReefCrystals to your specific application. The only reason to try other salts is that it seems like for whatever reason (or maybe just more people use it so you see more complaints) IO and RC precipitate calcium more often than other salts.

I believe the formula for IO and RC are almost identical, with RC having boosted alkalinity and calcium contents (and probably magnesium to hold them in suspension at higher levels). In theory, all of the salts should do the same thing and provide the same product. They all have a little "extra seasoning" here and there, but at the end of the day, you'll be fine with any of the main brands, especially early in the hobby.

Notice I did say "without adding anything". IE dosing the extra's a reef needs to sustain corals. No need to argue while I mostly agree with you, Just wanted to clarify what I said.
I'm finding that while using RC I have not needed to dose anything that my weekly water changes doesn't replenish. If you used regular IO, you would more then likely need to adjust it before even putting it in the tank.

Thanks for the great feedback everyone; I really appreciate it. With regards to the ATO, are any of you running the Tunze Nano, and do you like it?

My first 5 years in the hobby there was no such thing as an ATO(unless you DIY'ed it yourself). Always had wild salinity changes. Even when I started my biocube I did not have an ATO, and with just daily evap I would swing a couple points. Now that I have an ATO, I would never do a tank without one. Your salinity is just so pinpoint all the time. I have the nano and love it. Simple to setup and simple to use.
 
Notice I did say "without adding anything". IE dosing the extra's a reef needs to sustain corals. No need to argue while I mostly agree with you, Just wanted to clarify what I said.
I'm finding that while using RC I have not needed to dose anything that my weekly water changes doesn't replenish. If you used regular IO, you would more then likely need to adjust it before even putting it in the tank.

That's fair, but I think most people would be fine on IO for their first 3-6 months of using it (probably first or second bag worth) before they learned enough or were chasing numbers enough to warrant adding anything.

I guess it's worth the small investment between IO and RC to never have to worry about it?

Also, I didn't mean to be confrontational, you know I <3 you homer
 
+1 in the skimmer I have the same, works great on my 29.
+1 on the ato I also did it yolo manual top off for a couple months, ato from tunze 3155. Skip the nano, im sure it works great, but I prefer the redundancy of the eye and float switch.
+1 on the vortech it works awesome.
 
Thanks everyone, we'll get an ATO on order and post some pics of our setup once we have things together!
 
Our tank is cycling! We ended up using 20lbs of premium live rock from our LFS and 20lbs of sand. Very happy with the rock....full of life both good and bad.
2 mini brittle starfish
2-3 Asterina starfish
4 Bristleworms....two of which my hubby caught with tweezers. Omg so gross one was huge. There is one short fat guy who is more yellow that we haven't caught
1 snail...who was motoring across the live rock but his shell was flat
1 itty bitty shrimp...so tiny. He has some faint stripes that remind me of a peppermint

Purple coralline algae! One mushroom.

Ammonia was 0.25 or less on Day 1 no nitrites or nitrates. Temp is holding steady at 80 with all lights on and 78 with moonlight. Salinity 1.025

I will try to post pics later
 
Leave the bristle worms!!

Their good guys, and their population will self regulate. When my shrimps and crabs molt, I leave them in the tank. The bristle worms eat them, their a great part of your CUC. I have quite a few, one is nearly as big as a pencil.
 
Just an update!
Day 31 and things are good so far! Tunze Nano ATO is working great...thanks to all who said to be sure to add it! We will probably switch the lights out and go with a RapidLED kit. I would love to hear if any of you have tried this kit and if you like it. We don't have too many heat issues but tend to run 77.5 to 80 so thinking the LED might be nice to run cooler and of course more PAR value.
Homer, I hate the bristleworms....it is irrational but they are ugly!!!! My six-line wrasse now takes care of them for me instead of my hubby!
 
I love my bristle worms lol, I have one thats nearly as big around as my pinky finger!!

I did the aurora puck kit from RapidLED, absolutely top notch customer service. I cannot say enough good about these guys. Even after the sale months later they still were top notch. ReefWreak has a custom kit from them, and likes his as well.

I love my puck but had one glaring issues with it that some extra tinkering took care of. The puck offers great par and is super simple to install. The only issue I have with it, it's so small you end up with a spotlight effect in the tank. That's not to say that's a bad thing when it comes to corals. It offers you shaded spots and super bright spots, so coral placement is important. Aesthetically to my eye, I hated it even though my corals loved it. So I added a couple extra LEDs to the heatsink, and it solves the problem, but still offers me some spots where its not super bright.

If your looking into LED's, definitely go with these guys for DIY retrofit kits. They will walk you right through what you need and how it all works. Every email, and/or phone call was answered and was very helpful.

Of course there is other options, such as already built LED's, but you'll need to take the top off for those.
 
Thinking about getting the full spectrum solderless dimmable retrofit kit. Still uncertain about which colour combination. Suggestions? We tend to like things bluer but so many options!
 
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