3rd time is the charm. My 230 gallon ELOS reboot

alin2

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First of all, my thanks to the RC community for all the shared knowledge.

After a 2009 tank disaster (while on vacation) spilling hundreds of gallons of saltwater, losing all my corals, and causing 5 figures of damage to my 1st floor and basement from saltwater, I've always wanted to reboot my tank.

In 2012, I decided to go with a custom ELOS tank and placed a deposit with ELOS USA but was burned when ELOS switched distributors to Coralvue. No deposit refund (which was never forwarded to ELOS but kept by ELOS USA from what I was told), multiple family members getting seriously ill, and general family schedule craziness, the reboot get indefinitely delayed again.

So, you would think after a tank disaster and a "lost" deposit on a custom tank, I would deem this project doomed and give up.

But, NO! I'm either stubborn enough or stupid enough (probably both) to try to get this project rebooted again starting in the fall of 2014. And, after 1 years planning, installation of the system is starting next week.

Happier days with my first tank when first set-up:

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It was an custom peninsula acrylic tank on the first floor plumbed into a "fish room" that was my utility room (mistake #72).

Even when the tank was doing well, there were several things that made it a PIA including cleaning the tank panels required Houdini like contortions from the canopy. Keeping the sump and other filtration equipment in my utility room (even with a dehumidifier) caused premature rust in my HVAC system.

So, when I decided to reboot based upon the mistakes I learned from our tank disaster and the failures in design of the first tank, I wrote what I hated most about my original tank:

1. The Houdini contortions required to clean the tank "glass."
2. The unavoidable scratches on the acrylic
3. The noisy overflows regardless of any tried modification
4. The difficulty in water changes (hauling trash bins around, running downstairs to the sump room, spilling waste water on the floors, etc)
5. The poorly designed plumbing in media reactors, Ca reactor, etc which made it difficult to change media without spilling a lot of water
6. The nearly unusable refugium in the custom MRC sump
7. And, of course the absolutely doozy, the large spill while we were on vacation from the tank causing water damage and destruction of the aquarium stand and about $$$ of damage to our floors, basement etc!

I wanted to design the new tank around these principles:

1. In addition to the obvious need for the system to nurture beautiful aquatic life to thrive, I would like the system to be designed around these principles: safety, sustainability, silence, and convenience.

With convenience tied intimately with sustainability IMO. More convenient to maintain…more likely to maintain long term…

2. Tank placement, life support placement, aquascape all with an eye towards ease of cleaning.

3. Tight control and automating as much as possible with controller/computer.

4. Ease of adding/cleaning/removing/replacing media reactors (carbon, GFO, ?bio-pellets?)

5. A large UV unit for the display tank.

6. Ease of water changes and salt mixing.

7. LED lighting.

8. Near dead silence at the display tank.

9. Placement of the tank in the basement where a spill won't run down multiple levels.

10. A dedicated fish room with a dedicated humidity control system.

11. And MOST OF ALL: A GLASS TANK!

And, so it begins...
 
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And, so I choose to place the tank in my basement next to a basement bathroom that I converted into a fish room.

First things first, the carpet needed to go in case of spills and the floor and wall was tiled. I decided to go with a blue glass mosaic for the wall.

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The missing tile on the top left is due to a shortage in the amount of ordered glass tile. Grouting soon. The space in the wall tile is where the penetrations for the tank are going into the fish room.

The bathroom getting converted into a fish room:

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The shower was torn out but shower tile left and the drywall replaced with plywood covered by FRP (fiber reinforced plastic) which is great stuff for a wet room.

The bathroom then got a dedicated high CFM fan controlled by a humidistat vented to the outside.

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I also decided that if I am going to reboot, that I would not try to cut any corners in this build with equipment so, in a giant pile in my basement and garage are:

1. The display tank: An custom ELOS 160x100x60 cm tank with custom overflow. It's 63"x39"x24". The stand was also made by ELOS and is powder coated stainless steel that will eventually get skinned with bamboo panels.

Delivery Day!

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2. A Dreambox sump. I hated my previous MRC sump.

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The LED lighting for the Dreambox is cool:

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3. Lighting the tank will be a Giesemann Aurora:

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4. In tank circulation will be an Abyzz pump and 2 Neptune WAV pumps.

5. Aquascaping by Korallenwalt. The Abyzz pump will be placed in the large circle in the bank panel.

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6. A dedicated fish QT and Coral QT system independent of the display tank with Eheim canister filters. This will be in the "fish room."

7. Fish QT, Coral QT, and display tank with dedicated UV sterilizers, appropriately sized.
 
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Some other specs. I will also add pics as the install progresses next week.

1. RODI: Spectrapure MaxCap 2:1 100 gpd

2. Dosing: Combination of 2 Neptune WAV units and BRS dosers

3. Controller: Neptune Apex

4. RE Media reactors in the Dreambox sump. 1 for GFO, 1 for either biopellets or carbon

5. Emperor Aquatics UV. 3 units for Fish QT, Coral QT, and display tank
 
Just curious. Why continue to do business with Elos after they kept your deposit the last time? Did they let you apply it towards this tank?
 
Very nice setup to say the least. How did the saltwater rust your HVAC system?

I was an idiot in 2008 (and even currently if you ask my wife :p) and decided to try to make my utility room (with H2O heaters, furnace, etc) my sump room/equipment room. I also mixed saltwater in a covered Brute in the same room. The relative humidity in the room was consistently >50% even with a dehumidifier (running constantly and noisily mind you) and that, along with salt creep, caused significant rust amongst my HVAC ducts. I was going to consider alternatives like moving everything under the stand when I had my disaster.
 
Just curious. Why continue to do business with Elos after they kept your deposit the last time? Did they let you apply it towards this tank?

Good question.

I was all set on a Reef Savvy tank this time. But, as I discovered, Elos USA the US distributer kept the funds, not Elos in Italy. When Elos USA was dropped as the US distributer for Elos in favor of Coralvue, I never received my funds back. When I finally contacted Elos in Italy though Sam at Wet Work, Nicola Gandini, the owner of Elos, he was quite embarrassed about the situation and credited my deposit towards a custom Elos tank and stainless steel stand.

Even with that, I priced out options for a Reef Savvy tank and stand. But, it turns out that the Elos option was equivalent in costs even with ocean freight shipping figuring in the credit. I liked the stainless steel stand option from Elos better than the options given to me by Reef Savvy. Plus, I've always admired the craftsmanship of Elos tanks.

Honestly, I probably would have been ecstatic with either Reef Savvy or Elos as I think they are the top of the game in rimless glass tanks.
 
It's good to hear that Elos(Italy) finally made things right. Glad you wound up with a tank and stand that makes you happy. :)

Good question.

I was all set on a Reef Savvy tank this time. But, as I discovered, Elos USA the US distributer kept the funds, not Elos in Italy. When Elos USA was dropped as the US distributer for Elos in favor of Coralvue, I never received my funds back. When I finally contacted Elos in Italy though Sam at Wet Work, Nicola Gandini, the owner of Elos, he was quite embarrassed about the situation and credited my deposit towards a custom Elos tank and stainless steel stand.

Even with that, I priced out options for a Reef Savvy tank and stand. But, it turns out that the Elos option was equivalent in costs even with ocean freight shipping figuring in the credit. I liked the stainless steel stand option from Elos better than the options given to me by Reef Savvy. Plus, I've always admired the craftsmanship of Elos tanks.

Honestly, I probably would have been ecstatic with either Reef Savvy or Elos as I think they are the top of the game in rimless glass tanks.
 
Excellent!! What's the lead time at Elos now?
Let see the tank!

About 3 months, although I decided to go with 160x100x60 which although custom is readily available panels.

Tank is still in a crate. Move in day is Friday! Pics then.
 
Aluminum shelving and stand for fish QT, coral QT, refugium, ATO tank, saltwater mixing, etc.

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