Conesus_Kid
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Sweet!
Let's get that setup wet!!!
Let's get that setup wet!!!
40 Breeder project(s) Thread
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belgian_waffleman
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Nice setup but no unions?
Waffleman
Waffleman
wastememphis
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Does the external pump, go straight up, into a "T" then split on each side to the top tank and the bottom tank?
How much water is going to be directed into the lower tanks?
How much water is going to be directed into the lower tanks?
First off... very neat, well routed plumbing. I'll chime in too about the union thing... they are a really good idea. I'd add a union valve, or a union and a valve on each side of that pump. It's going to need to be serviced from time to time and as is look now, you are going to need a hacksaw to facilitate that.
For an additional $.02 I'll mention one more thing... As we discussed in the concerns on the strength of your stand, water can be rather heavy. When those return lines (and drains to a lesser extent) fill up with water, especially that cool looking manifold you have, it's going to have a good but of heft to it, and it's just hanging off the back of a standard (i.e. not heavy) duty bulkhead fitting, mounted through the relatively thin glass of a 40g tank. You have what's called a cantilevered load that is pulling downward, pushing on the lower part of the bulkhead, and pulling on the upper. I fear over time the bulkhead fitting or worse the glass will crack. Technically, the vertical return pipe from the pump is giving it extra support, but in doing so you are stressing the plastic pump housing, which might lead to something unfortunate there. (which factors into the serviceability/union issue again). What I'm getting at is I'd like to see some bracketry to either clamp the vertical pipes to the fram of the stand, or some other hanger/clamp type thing supporting the horizontal runs somewhere.
Good Luck !
For an additional $.02 I'll mention one more thing... As we discussed in the concerns on the strength of your stand, water can be rather heavy. When those return lines (and drains to a lesser extent) fill up with water, especially that cool looking manifold you have, it's going to have a good but of heft to it, and it's just hanging off the back of a standard (i.e. not heavy) duty bulkhead fitting, mounted through the relatively thin glass of a 40g tank. You have what's called a cantilevered load that is pulling downward, pushing on the lower part of the bulkhead, and pulling on the upper. I fear over time the bulkhead fitting or worse the glass will crack. Technically, the vertical return pipe from the pump is giving it extra support, but in doing so you are stressing the plastic pump housing, which might lead to something unfortunate there. (which factors into the serviceability/union issue again). What I'm getting at is I'd like to see some bracketry to either clamp the vertical pipes to the fram of the stand, or some other hanger/clamp type thing supporting the horizontal runs somewhere.
Good Luck !
acdraindrps
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I second what everything Chris has stated.
Also would like to add my two cents.
The large amount of horizontal travel that come after your drain bulkheads will slow the amount of water you will drain from the system.
Use unions, I already utilized mine and my new tank has been up for give or take 6 months.
Also would like to add my two cents.
The large amount of horizontal travel that come after your drain bulkheads will slow the amount of water you will drain from the system.
Use unions, I already utilized mine and my new tank has been up for give or take 6 months.
suppressivefire
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Took a little longer than expected to get the time to take pics but here they are!
Full stand shot
middle tank
top tank
inside shot
behind inside shot
hood front
hood back
Custom over flow covers
Brand new Ice Cap 660 for actinic with the 2 175 halides
Comment away!
Full stand shot
middle tank
top tank
inside shot
behind inside shot
hood front
hood back
Custom over flow covers
Brand new Ice Cap 660 for actinic with the 2 175 halides
Comment away!
suppressivefire
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Thanks for the input, i have brackets for pipe support just forgot to mention.
I would also like to thank you for your amazing detailed ideas and information and thoughts, this also goes for everyone! :thumbsup:
I'm happy to have helped. The stand and plumbing look good. Is that a check valve I see above your return pump? If so, please don't rely on it to avert disaster. Murphy's 7th law states that all check valves with fail when you need them to work. Even if it's a top quality on with sapphire bearings and NASA quality sealing surfaces, all it takes is one little tube worm, adventurous starfish, or baby snail to defeat even the most precise check valves. Please also incorporate some siphon breaks into your returns if you haven't already. Also be sure that if the power fails, the top tank can't back flow into the middle tank, since the path to the sump is impeded by the aforementioned check valve.
acdraindrps
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<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=11379673#post11379673 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by suppressivefire
also new reflectors and sockets.
Those reflectors only have two wires, which I think are both power. Your going to need to ground the third wire from your ballast to something. You could even get a ground plug and plug it into the ground on a wall outlet.
suppressivefire
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good point.
thanks!
thanks!
suppressivefire
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Sump
Filter sock
now to figure out the baffle setup any ideas?
Filter sock
now to figure out the baffle setup any ideas?
suppressivefire
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Ok, how do you do the siphon breaks?
acdraindrps
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In your case you can't, because you are using drilled returns. We have the same problem at the store. When the power went out the other day, the floor had about 40 gallons of water on it.
The only thing you can do is have a sump big enough to hold all the water that will drain when the power goes out. Simulate a power outage after your setup, and hope for the best. If your sump won't hold all the water from the back syphon, I hope your tank isn't on the second floor
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