40 Breeder, Return Pump and how many returns?

Ou8me2

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I'm trying to decide how big of pump I need for a return, but I also am thinking 2 returns into the tank off one pump vs just one return to the tank, off one return pump. Hopefully, this doesn't get too confusing.

I have been reading and come to a conclusion that somewhere between 5-10 times an hour is optimal for sump flow and turnover. I'll be using a 20 Long for a sump which will also have a refugium. I've also been reading getting an over-sized pump and dialing it back isn't good for the return pump either.

I'm pretty set on the Syncra Silent 3.0 Pump (714 GPH) Because of the headloss with my plumbing. This is hard plumbing with all PVC. I will be using a Herbie overflow method.

My question is now: would 2 - 3/4 return create too much surface agitation? or Should I just go with 1 - 3/4 return?

I've used a calculator to add my plumbing in to calculate head loss etc. obviously these aren't exact to the point numbers..but close probably.

With 2 - 3/4 returns one on each end and overflow in the middle.. rough estimate would be 5.38 feet of head pressure, or 2.33 PSI. with a flow rate of 407 GPH.

With only 1 - 3/4 return it would be 4.7 feet of head pressure, or 2.03 PSI. with a flow rate of 443 GPH return and the overflow would be at the opposite end.

Am I overthinking myself? I was thinking 2 returns would be great surface agitation. I don't want a hurricane in the tank before I add powerheads for flow in the tank and I don't want one in my sump either since I will have a refugium.

Any advice would be greatly appreciated.
 
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Wow, old thread but can you tell me what you decided? I am in the same boat and not sure if I should go with 1 or 2 returns. My pump is similar to yours as well.
 
Wow, old thread but can you tell me what you decided? I am in the same boat and not sure if I should go with 1 or 2 returns. My pump is similar to yours as well.

Its really your choice.. having multiples just allows you to spread some flow around the tank a bit more.. Not really needed though assuming your powerheads do that just fine
Don't forget antisiphon holes or similar to prevent backflow when the power goes out assuming the outlets in the tank will be underwater

Either is really fine though..
 
Wow, old thread but can you tell me what you decided? I am in the same boat and not sure if I should go with 1 or 2 returns. My pump is similar to yours as well.

I didn't do a 40 breeder, so I can't answer. Went another direction with a 75 gallon. I'll agree with mcgyvr though. :lmao: I think 2 would be a lot of flow though, so maybe not the best. On my 75 I have 1 return and it's more than enough flow to almost kick up a sandstorm using 3/4 loc-line with a flair nozzle.
 
Great thank you! Seems I can save a few bucks with plumbing only 1 return. I may consider a y on the single return so I can get a bit more direction out of it.
 
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