I'm almost done filling it! See link for additional info and pictures.
http://www.pnwmas.org/forums/showthread.php?t=8770
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http://www.pnwmas.org/forums/showthread.php?t=8770
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400g Envision Reef Build
- Thread starter kilmca
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The tank is 24" deep, 32" wide and 120" long.
Yes the tank will be completely filled. Plumbing is taking a little longer than I would have liked. Doesn't help the wife planned a beach weekend this past weekend so we didn't get home till Sunday late.
Fish and corals are still doing great but around 250 of the 300 gallons is fresh saltwater so not having a protein skimmer or sump going yet is not hurting anything.
I will be doing a leak test on the plumbing tonight, if everything works out fine i'll be filling the sump and the tank the rest of the way.
Than i'll be setting up the skimmer.
Yes the tank will be completely filled. Plumbing is taking a little longer than I would have liked. Doesn't help the wife planned a beach weekend this past weekend so we didn't get home till Sunday late.
Fish and corals are still doing great but around 250 of the 300 gallons is fresh saltwater so not having a protein skimmer or sump going yet is not hurting anything.
I will be doing a leak test on the plumbing tonight, if everything works out fine i'll be filling the sump and the tank the rest of the way.
Than i'll be setting up the skimmer.
Well the tank is full of water and the return plumbing is done. Still have to setup the skimmer and make other adjustments.
One issue i'm dealing with is that I have two overflows and each overflow has two 1.5" diameter dursos. Here is the problem, only two of the 4 durso's are working. I have the dart pump turned down a little because I need to get a Y locline on each return rather than just a single on each return. Some of the corals wouldn't be able to handle the flow if i let the dart run at 100%. I plan on using the dart at 100% eventually but I need to disperse the flow some more.
I even tested running the dart at 100% and still the two 1.5" diameter durso's can handle the flow. Does anyone know what a 1.5" durso is rated for? I read somewhere that a 1" durso can handle 2500 gph, if that's true than I guess I only need two 1.5" durso's to keep up with the dart.
Any advice would be helpful.
Here are some pictures and go here if you want to see more pictures.
Left Side Shot
Right Side Shot
One issue i'm dealing with is that I have two overflows and each overflow has two 1.5" diameter dursos. Here is the problem, only two of the 4 durso's are working. I have the dart pump turned down a little because I need to get a Y locline on each return rather than just a single on each return. Some of the corals wouldn't be able to handle the flow if i let the dart run at 100%. I plan on using the dart at 100% eventually but I need to disperse the flow some more.
I even tested running the dart at 100% and still the two 1.5" diameter durso's can handle the flow. Does anyone know what a 1.5" durso is rated for? I read somewhere that a 1" durso can handle 2500 gph, if that's true than I guess I only need two 1.5" durso's to keep up with the dart.
Any advice would be helpful.
Here are some pictures and go here if you want to see more pictures.
Left Side Shot
Right Side Shot
Untamed12
New member
I wish you had put up your plan before you did the plumbing....Maybe it will be fairly easy to change....
Since you've proven that you can handle all of the flow through only two of the 1.5" drain holes (one in each box), you are in a perfect position to eliminate the dursos and do "Herbie" drains.
While dursos can quiet the drains considerably, Herbie style are absolutely 100% silent.
Here's a photo of my twin Herbies... on my two overflow boxes....on my two 1.5" drains....powered by my Dart at 100% flow...on my 400 gallon Envision tank... Sound similar? The commonalities are pretty freaky!
Since you've proven that you can handle all of the flow through only two of the 1.5" drain holes (one in each box), you are in a perfect position to eliminate the dursos and do "Herbie" drains.
While dursos can quiet the drains considerably, Herbie style are absolutely 100% silent.
Here's a photo of my twin Herbies... on my two overflow boxes....on my two 1.5" drains....powered by my Dart at 100% flow...on my 400 gallon Envision tank... Sound similar? The commonalities are pretty freaky!
Untamed12,
Thanks for the information. I have to do some research on the herbie drains. I belive it would be pretty easy to change over to herbie drains because i have access to the back and underside of the tank.
I have to see if they are totally necessary since I got the loclines I needed and I can now run the pump at 100% and nothing gets hurt. Also the dursos are pretty quiet, actually i think they are very quiet compared to the external overflows I had on the previous tank.
Thanks again and that is freaky how similar our tanks are, what are the dimensions of your tank?
Thanks for the information. I have to do some research on the herbie drains. I belive it would be pretty easy to change over to herbie drains because i have access to the back and underside of the tank.
I have to see if they are totally necessary since I got the loclines I needed and I can now run the pump at 100% and nothing gets hurt. Also the dursos are pretty quiet, actually i think they are very quiet compared to the external overflows I had on the previous tank.
Thanks again and that is freaky how similar our tanks are, what are the dimensions of your tank?
Untamed12
New member
6ft x 4ft x 26"H
I'll just add that the Herbie method eliminates any air bubbles getting carried down into the sump. This means that you can have the drain tube exit below the water line in the sump. There is no splashing or bubbles and everything stays a lot less salty in general.
I'll just add that the Herbie method eliminates any air bubbles getting carried down into the sump. This means that you can have the drain tube exit below the water line in the sump. There is no splashing or bubbles and everything stays a lot less salty in general.
PreacherMan607
New member
Awesome!...........Someday I'll have one like that! Great looking tank!
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=13498602#post13498602 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by dismalorb
Hey kilmca,
Beautiful tank! Now I know what I can expect from James when I have him build me the 450 I'm over-half paid on!
Oh the joys of living in Oregon.
You won't be dissapointed if you get a tank built by James, he's also great to deal with.
Untamed12,
I was considering an 8ft x 4ft x 2ft 480 gallon tank but the 400g plan was the design that won. I think i'll be trying the herbie drains if they get rid of bubbles. I've heard to go with gate valves rather than ball valves, right? Ball valves aren't really reliable, so I've heard.
skimmer and calcium reactor
skimmer and calcium reactor
I'm not very good at updating progress on the tank on a regular basis. The skimmer has been going for about a month now and i just got the calcium reactor setup this past week. I'm very impressed by the skimmers performance, i guess i shouldn't be that because of all the good reviews i read before i bought it.
Still haven't finished the cabinet work around the tank but hopefully in the next couple weeks that will come together.
skimmer and calcium reactor
I'm not very good at updating progress on the tank on a regular basis. The skimmer has been going for about a month now and i just got the calcium reactor setup this past week. I'm very impressed by the skimmers performance, i guess i shouldn't be that because of all the good reviews i read before i bought it.
Still haven't finished the cabinet work around the tank but hopefully in the next couple weeks that will come together.
