40g breeder build(ucf)

[evsalty]

Actually, my return is in the middle/right. The refugium is gonna be on the left.
Better view.

Why did you put the bubble trap between the fuge and the return? You will probably see a lot more bubbles coming from your skimmer output then from the fuge. Also the waterfall that is going to be created by the last baffle of your bubble trap is going to create bubbles itself which will defeat the bubble trap completely.

 

[dublo8]

I would flip the sump around. Inlet/skimmer>fuge>return. Just my 2c. Evsalty is right though about the bubbles. You should also entertain the idea of painting the back and sides of your sump. It helps to hide wires and junk.


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[gbot9000]

quick update

quick update

How the light rack will look, kinda looks like its floating. the vertical in back is getting stained now.

Standard standpipe.

Underneath.

 

[gbot9000]

Why did you put the bubble trap between the fuge and the return? You will probably see a lot more bubbles coming from your skimmer output then from the fuge. Also the waterfall that is going to be created by the last baffle of your bubble trap is going to create bubbles itself which will defeat the bubble trap completely.

The water level won't be as low as you think. That glass panel on the right has no real purpose except to visually divide pump and skimmer. I do agree with you that the bubbles from skimmer being a problem more than fuge. Just wasn't enough for everything with a second bubble trap.

 

[evsalty]

IMHO I would swap it around like Dub mentioned so that the bubble trap is inbetween the return pump and the skimmer. Then I would either make the single fuge baffle taller are at a minimum put a wall of egg crate or netting material on top of the existing short baffle.

Now I have a second concern but for the main tank. In your pic of your overflow it appears that the overflow is maybe 1/2" from the inner lip of the top trim??? Is this the case? I ask because the water going over the overflow wall will more then likely be at a minimum of 1/4" higher then the wall itself if you run anywhere nere 300+ gph. This will not leave you with any capacity to handle water from the sump in the event of a drain clog issue. Especially with the way your sump is setup. I am hoping that it is just the pic making it look that high up because if I am seeing this correctly then you have a flood wating to happen sorry to say.

 

[gbot9000]

Now I have a second concern but for the main tank. In your pic of your overflow it appears that the overflow is maybe 1/2" from the inner lip of the top trim??? Is this the case? I ask because the water going over the overflow wall will more then likely be at a minimum of 1/4" higher then the wall itself if you run anywhere nere 300+ gph. This will not leave you with any capacity to handle water from the sump in the event of a drain clog issue. Especially with the way your sump is setup. I am hoping that it is just the pic making it look that high up because if I am seeing this correctly then you have a flood wating to happen sorry to say.

Yea it is 1/2" from the lip. Even with 14" of overflow though? i can see it going 1/4" but nothing more.
If i see its a problem during the leak test i will trim it down.


Should i put anything between the bulkhead and tee of the return line? maybe like a ball valve or check valve?

 

[evsalty]

Yea it is 1/2" from the lip. Even with 14" of overflow though? i can see it going 1/4" but nothing more.
If i see its a problem during the leak test i will trim it down.


Should i put anything between the bulkhead and tee of the return line? maybe like a ball valve or check valve?

I agree that it will probably be around 1/4" higher during NORMAL operation. But if you have any restriction or failure of that drain then you WILL have a flood due to how much water is available in the sump. Because of the short baffle in your sump you will be able to pump close to 1/3 of your sumps normal operating water out of the sump via the return. You will see what I mean when you fill it up and start testing for various scenarios. This flood issue is truthfully a result of both the DT overflow height and the short baffle in the sump since you say you will be running the water level higher then that baffle. But even if you fix the baffle you will probably still have couple gallons avail to be put up in the DT.

 

[pimp4cheddar]

Looks good.

The set up looks well made.

Just curious...why didn't you paint the inside of the stand?

Clean looking tank!

 

[gbot9000]

I agree that it will probably be around 1/4" higher during NORMAL operation. But if you have any restriction or failure of that drain then you WILL have a flood due to how much water is available in the sump. Because of the short baffle in your sump you will be able to pump close to 1/3 of your sumps normal operating water out of the sump via the return. You will see what I mean when you fill it up and start testing for various scenarios. This flood issue is truthfully a result of both the DT overflow height and the short baffle in the sump since you say you will be running the water level higher then that baffle. But even if you fix the baffle you will probably still have couple gallons avail to be put up in the DT.

k, i will prob redo my baffles then on the skimmer then. you convinced me =)
thanks evsalty, as seen in your sig it looks like you might have had a flood before? and your workin on a 40br? pics?

 

[gbot9000]

Looks good.

The set up looks well made.

Just curious...why didn't you paint the inside of the stand?

Clean looking tank!

Thank you!
I did paint most of the inside white, mainly to protect the wood.
I didnt really care to stain it.lol. too lazy.

 

[evsalty]

k, i will prob redo my baffles then on the skimmer then. you convinced me =)
thanks evsalty, as seen in your sig it looks like you might have had a flood before? and your workin on a 40br? pics?

Nope never had a flood. I looked at my 40br water level and I think for yours as long you raise that baffle height you might be fine but by the hair on your chinny chin chin if you know what I mean.

Sump level during normal op:

Sump level with pump off:

Tank water level with pump off:

If you look really closely to the right side of this pic you can see the normal water level in relation to the trim.

The build thread can be found here http://reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1904563&page=2

 

[gbot9000]

wow! excellent work evsalty, i will be following you thread for sure.

I finally got the water test done, you were right evsalty, the water level is so high!
im defiantly gonna have to trim it down. especially with a mp10 in there.

im also gonna change up the sump alil. didnt like the flow through it.

 

[evsalty]

That is scarry high LMAO. At that height you might even almost flood during restart.

 

[gbot9000]

Update after a long hiatus. I
have still had my tank up and running. It has had its ups and downs. I was not getting the growth I wanted so I have recently updated from koralia's to a mp10. I am very happy with it. Here is an older video. I'll try to get one with mp10 in action. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GyCaNHRTMaQ&feature=youtube_gdata_player

 

[maddmaxx]

first off the wu-tang symbol was awesome....but question, did you ever lower the overflow height?