40g Breeder Reef Build/ 20L Sump!
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Jon0807
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Sicce syncra silent 5.0. I also have it running 2 reactors and a fuge. I also plumbed a return back to the skimmer section to so recirculate some of the water for extra skimming and so I can shut off the DT return and still have water circulating through the sump. I'm going to be switching it to a Jaebao DCT6000. I like the controlability of a DC pump and the price is really good. Plus it seems a lot quieter than the sicce
I'm going to go with a Jebao as well. I am looking into plumbing a manifold and definitely want some flow into my refugium. I had one years ago with no flow and the top of my chaeto ball would just die off.
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Get the dcp series instead of the dct, new impeller design and a better controller. I've had both and the dcp is superior.
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Jon0807
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Too late, I already have the DCT lol. It was kind of an emergency buy cause I found that the Sicce pump impeller was broken. I did a quick superglue fix on it but I needed a replacement right away and didn't really do much research. It wasn't till after that I read that the DCP was better but I already had the DCT running in vinegar and probably couldn't return it
Yea, I had some issues with the impeller on the dct binding and sometimes wouldn't start after turning it off. I replaced with the dcp pump and ordered a replacement impeller for the dct. I now use the dct for water changes and as a backup.
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Hey just curious as to how you ran your plumbing for your reactores / fuge/ returns. Do you have any pics?
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Jon0807
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Oh boy, you want me to show you my jumbled mess of a sump? Hopefully you'll be able to make out what I did from the pics
So the sicce pump is at the bottom of the 4 way. To the left it recirculates back into the skimmer chamber. Up is the return to the DT. And to the right it goes into the reactors and fuge.
20170914_205712 by flickr_jon0807, on FlickrLike I said, It's kind of a mess down here.
20170914_205753 by flickr_jon0807, on FlickrI have 3 tees, one runs the GFO, one carbon and a third for whatever I decide to cram in here in the future. And then it goes down to my fuge where I have a ball valve to control the flow.
20170914_205827 by flickr_jon0807, on FlickrAs you probably notice, my fuge is at the opposite end of the sump as the skimmer with the return area in the middle. I liked the idea of being able to control the flow of the fuge and be able to shut it off completely if needed.
Jon0807
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The only problem with this setup is if you adjust any one of the ball valves, it affects the flow to everything else so you have to adjust all of those as well. It takes a while to get it dialed in. If I had to do it all over again, I'd probably run the reactors on a separate pump. I'd also try to give myself more room down here.
Awesome thanks for the pics. The thing I was concerned about with plumbing in a manifold straight off of the return was exactly what you said. I do however want some flow in my fuge just to tumble a ball of chaeto. Im thinking I will go skimmer/fuge/return. From the return I will habe one T to a ball valve for the fuge and a gate valve to returns (two 3/4") into the DT.
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Jon0807
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I was going to make a spray bar that evenly distributed the flow over the chaeto but I think I bought the wrong kind of chaeto cause when I put it in all it did was sink to the bottom and broke apart due to too much flow. Now I have strands of dying chaeto all over my fuge. But I think if I got the right chaeto, the spray bar would've tumbled it nicely and I cam adjust the flow
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I didn't think it was but apparently for this type of chaeto it was. I had to turn it way down but now it's just sitting at the bottom of the sump doing nothing. I turned up the lights, hopefully it grows otherwise I'll have to find someone locally who's willing to sell a chunk
Interesting. I had no idea that there were different kinds.
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Reefer40b
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I personally think 2x4 are over kill for a small 40b, 1x3's or 1x4's are better and allow more space for the sump/equipment, also much lighter.
I built my stand to the size of the tank and can slide the 20L sump out the front no problem and I fit 6 gallons of ATO under there...
I built my stand to the size of the tank and can slide the 20L sump out the front no problem and I fit 6 gallons of ATO under there...
Do you have any pics? I have been researching stands and saw a 1x3 build that i was interested in. Im mainly trying to figure out how i am going to finish the outside of the stand.Yeah
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Hey I am waiting for Modular Marine to reopen shop but I was curious which GPH model you went with ? Im thinking 1200GPH but wondering if I ahould go with 1800 GPH instead.This is almost exactly to a tee what I did. My best advice is to plan your stand to be able to remove the sump easily. I made my stand using the standard 2x4 frame and the only way I could get the 20l sump into it was by lowering it in from the top. The only way it's coming out without breaking down the entire display is by literally breaking it.
I used the modular Marine ghost overflow with a bean animal drain. Was the best choice of made on this tank, I absolutely love it and endorse it wholeheartedly. I'm also running the same light as you, I'd consider moving up to the 32" fixture if you can swing it. The light coverage drops off significantly towards the sides of my tank with the 24. You can check out my par map attached.
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Oh I didnt see that option. I only see listings on Ebay because their site is closed currently. Was supposed to open back up a couple days ago. I would also like to upgrade the drains to 1".
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