5 Inches of sand from the ocean

andbigdaddy2

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Ok im sure this is a no no and maybe illegal but since i live buy a beach and i couldnt wait for the next day to buy some sand i went to the beach at high tide and snagged some. The cool thing is free sand the not so cool thing is the hundreds of small clams(I dont know what else to call them) in the tank as well as sand fleas. So heres my question How bad did i screw my self will these things die and cause a amonia spike that will not only kill everything else in the tank but also stink up my house or what?
 
its a 10 gallon
Temp 75.5
salinty 1.022
ammonia 0

The rest i will have to get back to you on i just realized that i dont have a saltwater test kit only fresh
 
Yes thats what they look like. Ruff guess i would say there are about a hundred or more along with some sand fleas. the only things in the tank right now are 6 hermits and 2 pounds of live rock.
 
if they die its cool your hermits will help pick them appart i would also get some nassarius snails they will also help
 
THe only bad thing I've heard about using sand from the beach is that the foam from waves works like a protein skimmer, making sand the collection cup. If you're going to use sand from the beach, the safest way would be to go out at low tide and get sand in chest deep water.
 
You should remove the sand and strain it somehow. We have the same type of clams and sandfleas here in Central Fl at the beach. You really shouldn't wait for the critters to die off and mess up the tank. It would probably be in your favor, and faster, to clean the sand of the critters.
 
I would return the sand and buy some aragonite based substrate like you should of done in the first place. Who knows what toxins are in the sand you just dumped in your precious tank? If you don't have the patients to wait one day for something, you will not make it far in this hobby.

Sorry to be so blunt, but it is for the best. Here to help.
 
Re: 5 Inches of sand from the ocean

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=10020784#post10020784 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by andbigdaddy2
Ok im sure this is a no no and maybe illegal but since i live buy a beach and i couldnt wait for the next day to buy some sand i went to the beach at high tide and snagged some.

I've done the same thing; however, most sand is silica as opposed to calcium based sands used in most reef aquariums. However, I use this sand for a hospital/QT tanks as Copper & Calcium will interact.

Also the shoreline is fairly rich in nutrients, and this is why there are lots of barnacles and clams that put up with being out of water at low tide. You'll need to feed these phytoplankton or they will die off. You can get big bottles of this on ebay and feed a few squirts a day. It's also good for pods if you have them.

I've had pink acorn barnacles in one tank for about 8 weeks now. I found them on the beach, and feed them phytoplankton every few days (or clean the glass as they like that too).
 
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Re: Re: 5 Inches of sand from the ocean

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=10021427#post10021427 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by fatdaddy
I've done the same thing; however, most sand is silica as opposed to calcium based sands used in most reef aquariums. However, I use this sand for a hospital/QT tanks as Copper & Calcium will interact.

this is a good point since most beaches aren't made of sand that washes in from the ocean more-so than sand they bring in in dump trucks to counteract beach erosion
 
I would return the sand and buy some aragonite based substrate like you should of done in the first place. Who knows what toxins are in the sand you just dumped in your precious tank? If you don't have the patients to wait one day for something, you will not make it far in this hobby.

Sorry to be so blunt, but it is for the best. Here to help.


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I think your help is the kind i dont need.
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=10022036#post10022036 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by andbigdaddy2
I would return the sand

Some people use silica sand although it's usually not recommended.

If you go to the florida keyes the reefs are surrounded by calcium based sand, and this is the look that most reefers are going for.

Although if go to Fort Lauderdale and dive on the reefs, you'll find find grain silty silica sand surrounding the reefs.

There is also some reasoning that silica slowly dissolves into silicates that could potentially result in a diatom bloom. Although some glass is constantly dissolving as well, but I don't see people rushing to go acryllic.

Another reason is the buffering effect that Ca based sands would have that silica would not, but if you're PH drops that far that the buffering would kick in, you'd have bigger problems.

Also, there are lots of sand sifting critters that do better when the sand isn't as fine as normal silica sand. But, again, I found plenty of blennies living in the silica sand around Fort Lauderdale. Although with is much sand as my Blenny throws around in my tank, I'm glad it's not the silty variety.

With all the above said, some people routinely use silica based sand because it's much, much cheaper (or free), and they claim good results.

Also, I'd ignore the dire predictions of impending doom by getting something direct from the ocean or beach. It's really neat to figure out your local aquatic systems and I'd encourage you to do so.

Some people go nuts when you say you collected fresh ocean water instead of using a salt mix and predict imminant collapse of your tank (although the same people often don't bother to QT their fish). I'd refrain if I lived in a polluted, highly populated area, but for NE Florida beaches, I just don't buy the doom and gloom.
 
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