IMAMONSTER
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What is the material you are using to wrap the pipes?
600 Gallon Upgrade Build
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What material are you using on the pipe called? And how is your build coming along?
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Reefing is my middle name
Tank Change Over Question
Tank Change Over Question
Is it possible that once my new tank passes the leak test that I can change all the water and rock over with the fish in one shot? I am only asking because in my present 225 I started missing my gobies and just notice that my engineer gobies are attacking my fish at feeding and saw one take my zebra striped goby with him.
Expert advice is definitely needed like yesterday.
Tank Change Over Question
Is it possible that once my new tank passes the leak test that I can change all the water and rock over with the fish in one shot? I am only asking because in my present 225 I started missing my gobies and just notice that my engineer gobies are attacking my fish at feeding and saw one take my zebra striped goby with him.
Expert advice is definitely needed like yesterday.
sfsuphysics
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Is it possible? Sure. But make sure you don't have to do anything for the rest of the day. plenty of towels to clean up the mess you will make, and do prepared to get wet and try not to care about it much (shirtless works great for this).
Step 1: before you get started make sure you have sufficient water for the new tank (always a good thing
), and make sure it's warm enough.
Step 2: Move the rocks over, any corals on the rocks can survive without water for a good amount of time
Step 3: Make the rock structures that you want, and prepare for them not to work like your plan, Murphy's Law of rock building, structures will never go back the same way you had them before.
Step 4: If you're going to reuse old tank water start moving that over, and as the water gets lower with no rocks in the old tank you should be able to catch the fish no problem, I'd use clear containers over a net though.
Step 5: Wipe up the drips on the floor, stare at the tank, and pat yourself on the back for a damn fine job.
Keep the lights off for the day so that any spooked fish can settle in.
Ideally you'll already have some rock structures in place, I'm guessing since you said 225g is your old tank and you're upgrading to 600. Unless you're going for a lot of free space. So moving the rock shouldn't be too difficult.
Keep a mind on your hands though, even if you have fairly thick skinned/rough hands (i.e. you work with your hands a lot) the water will soften them up and they might get scraped/punctured more easily. Last thing you want is some bacterial infection from your tank, nasty stuff.. trust me. Latex gloves will probably be useless after about 30 minutes (if that long), something thicker like dish washing gloves will last a bit longer. Just be mindful if where your hands grab rock.
Step 1: before you get started make sure you have sufficient water for the new tank (always a good thing
), and make sure it's warm enough. Step 2: Move the rocks over, any corals on the rocks can survive without water for a good amount of time
Step 3: Make the rock structures that you want, and prepare for them not to work like your plan, Murphy's Law of rock building, structures will never go back the same way you had them before.
Step 4: If you're going to reuse old tank water start moving that over, and as the water gets lower with no rocks in the old tank you should be able to catch the fish no problem, I'd use clear containers over a net though.
Step 5: Wipe up the drips on the floor, stare at the tank, and pat yourself on the back for a damn fine job.
Keep the lights off for the day so that any spooked fish can settle in.
Ideally you'll already have some rock structures in place, I'm guessing since you said 225g is your old tank and you're upgrading to 600. Unless you're going for a lot of free space. So moving the rock shouldn't be too difficult.
Keep a mind on your hands though, even if you have fairly thick skinned/rough hands (i.e. you work with your hands a lot) the water will soften them up and they might get scraped/punctured more easily. Last thing you want is some bacterial infection from your tank, nasty stuff.. trust me. Latex gloves will probably be useless after about 30 minutes (if that long), something thicker like dish washing gloves will last a bit longer. Just be mindful if where your hands grab rock.
Newbie Aquarist
Reefing is my middle name
Is it possible? Sure. But make sure you don't have to do anything for the rest of the day. plenty of towels to clean up the mess you will make, and do prepared to get wet and try not to care about it much (shirtless works great for this).
Step 1: before you get started make sure you have sufficient water for the new tank (always a good thing
Step 2: Move the rocks over, any corals on the rocks can survive without water for a good amount of time
Step 3: Make the rock structures that you want, and prepare for them not to work like your plan, Murphy's Law of rock building, structures will never go back the same way you had them before.
Step 4: If you're going to reuse old tank water start moving that over, and as the water gets lower with no rocks in the old tank you should be able to catch the fish no problem, I'd use clear containers over a net though.
Step 5: Wipe up the drips on the floor, stare at the tank, and pat yourself on the back for a damn fine job.
Keep the lights off for the day so that any spooked fish can settle in.
Ideally you'll already have some rock structures in place, I'm guessing since you said 225g is your old tank and you're upgrading to 600. Unless you're going for a lot of free space. So moving the rock shouldn't be too difficult.
Keep a mind on your hands though, even if you have fairly thick skinned/rough hands (i.e. you work with your hands a lot) the water will soften them up and they might get scraped/punctured more easily. Last thing you want is some bacterial infection from your tank, nasty stuff.. trust me. Latex gloves will probably be useless after about 30 minutes (if that long), something thicker like dish washing gloves will last a bit longer. Just be mindful if where your hands grab rock.
Thanks for the assistance. I have seen your response to numerous threads and I am glad someone with some experience replied. Thank you very much. Next month should be the big month so wish me well.
Newbie Aquarist
Reefing is my middle name
Other than getting my pumps, I am pretty much stuck on stupid. I am trying my best to figure the flow out that I want to do with this tank. I know that its pretty much going to be dominant SPS tank with other goodies but I just want to get it right the first time and never look back. You know what I mean. I'm just saying. I am totally boggled. Almost to a point where I want to give up.
danfeig
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Wayne I think you are worrying too much! Flow is something that can be easily tweaked and should be tweaked on occasion. Look at the ocean...the direction and flow of the water is constantly changing. So much depends on the weather.
I am very happy with my VorTech MP40's and MP60's. I may even look to acquire an additional one or two MP40's after MACNA. EcoTech has a VorTech recommended flow calculator on their website!
There are several programs that you can run with VorTechs. They speak to each other wirelessly. I have mine running opposite of one another. Essentially when the Eastern most unit is on full power, my Western and two Northern units are on a lower power. As they ramp up, my Eastern winds down. There is constant motion in the tank, going back and forth. You can see the flow in the video I posted last night. In the evenings as the lights go down, my VorTechs also ramp down somewhat.
You can go with Sea Swirls or other power heads for flow. Your Reeflo Pumps will certainly give you the flow and churning of water from your sump into your tank. You can also "T" off lock line in all directions from your overflow.
You'll be fine! I assure you!
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I know. I believe I am just being hard on myself. I am worrying about something that won't happen until the corals actually get into the tank. I am definitely going with the sea swirls and Tunzes. I will be patient and worry about that when that point in the tank build comes. Thanks.
bmullikin1
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just saw a new multiflow seaswirl on emmetts tank the other day, its the size of the old 1/2 ones, and nice and quiet.
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I saw those on their website. I see you went frag shopping at Emmett's huh? But my final decision is going with the new (well new to me) 1 1/2 sea swirls.
SUPPOReefer
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Wow!! Read the entire thread. You must have the patience of a saint. I have been planning my upgrade for almost a year. Finally purchased the tank in August, and am still procuring pieces of equipment. Upgrading to a large tank on a nano-budget takes time. Tagging along. I hope that water is in your near future.
Newbie Aquarist
Reefing is my middle name
It's a combination of patience and proper planning. If I really wanted this build could have been done already. But my older daughter would have been homeless and car less, my second child would not have made her prom or had her items she needed to graduate high school and tuition to make it to college, my children wouldn't have spent the summer with me, my friends tank would have crashed when her mother died so i helped with that, and my sister died in the summer also. But even with that happening in my life I will still be where I am in my build because you just cant rush something this big. If it wasn't for people before me like SPotter, Dustin, Danfeg, David000061, Mo, Ching, Peter, Reef SMAC, dave m., reef noob, and all those great builds before me, I wouldn't be where I am today.
I can't lie, a little piece of everyone of their build is incorporated in my build. It may not be exact but some shape or form it is in there. They knowledge has been grateful to me and I have to thank them for their boost of confidence also when I was down and had nowhere to go and when I was going down the wrong path also.
Progress will be made this weekend and pictures will soon follow. Thanks everyone for being patient.
SUPPOReefer
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I understand completely. I could have been done with my build months ago if not for a wedding that spiraled out of control. In the end, my wife got the wedding of the dreams, and now I get the tank of my dreams. Everyone is happy.
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Dustin1300
Reefaholic
Wayne, it's all about patience
I'm with you on taking time and spending it as I have the extra dough. I did not originally plan on having tank as early as I did but having it in the garage is driving me nuts! Hope to have it in basement this month but time will tell...We have something called patience! An instrumental piece of being a successful reef keeper too!
I'm with you on taking time and spending it as I have the extra dough. I did not originally plan on having tank as early as I did but having it in the garage is driving me nuts! Hope to have it in basement this month but time will tell...We have something called patience! An instrumental piece of being a successful reef keeper too!
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Wayne, it's all about patience
Dustin I know what you mean. Every time I leave out my house I walk past my tank every day and it kills me every time. My neighbor is like, "Dude when are you going to get that beast in the house?" I keep telling him "Patience man, patience."
Osteoclast
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Agree with slow and steady. I have been adding coral and fish slowly since Feburary. Painful yet extremely important. Certainly Rome was not built in a day. Good luck, have enjoyed following your build.
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Reefing is my middle name
You are so right. I would not have it any other way. I am honored that you have enjoyed my build thus far. I will do my best not to let you down.
It is a combination of all of the above. The family in the tank shot is going to be harder than the tank build itself.
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