75 Gallon Build

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=13012834#post13012834 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by SkiFletch
If you're not gonna use the screens, prepare for fish to jump in that overflow ;)

Yeah, and I've got a 4 line wrasse that loves to routinely hop in and out of the overflow looking for goodies. I use a piece of fiberglass pet screen for my HOB overflow now, but it's a bit restrictive. I think I'm going to tuck gutter guard in there and zip tie it to the elbows in the overflow.
 
So, this project has been idle for a few months now. Sheesh, I was originally optimistic enough to think that I could do it all in 2 months!

Over the past 2 weeks I've got stain and 3 coats of poly on the stand, and I've got the sump cleaned out. My next step is to assemble my plumbing to the sump, configure my sump, then assemble my return plumbing. I've also abandoned the canopy in favor of a 6 bulb fixture.

If I can just keep some momentum going... I might actually have water in this thing some day!

Some pics of the stand. Man, the flash pics up every nail and gap in the wood.

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I've had a great deal of progress over the past few days, and may even be doing an all nighter tear down and setup tomorrow night. I'm anxious to get it up and running before the weekend, because I'm traveling next week and want to have as many days as possible to observe and address any issues.

How long does a change over usually take? I seem to remember it taking me several hours to empty my tank and replace a crushed coral bed.

What I've done since my last update:
-Cleaned out the 30 long... placed it in the stand and realized that I had a set of outlets placed 3 inches too low. Moved the outlets up as far as I could.
-Decided that I wanted a little more room on either side of the sump and went with a 29, then installed all of my baffles.
-Measured, cut and glued all of mu PVC. I'm high as a kite from this PVC cement. Definitely a warm weather outdoor activity.
-Filled a 44 gallon brute can with RODI and salt mix. It's been circulating and heating for two days.

Next steps:
-I need one more union to complete the plumbing to my refugium.
-Break down the old tank, and toss the portions of the sand bed that I'm not keeping (like 100 lbs worth... darned DSB, ugh).
-Out with the old, in with the new.
-Remove the outlet, and wire in the stand. I've got more of the EFT and an outdoor junction cover that accepts the EFT end. Should keep everything nice and dry.

I'm really regretting the height of this stand. I like the height of the stand for my 55. It's easy for me to reach in and do maintenance, and it's a good height for the kids to see and enjoy everything. So I went with the same height for the 75. I could really use a few more inches of working room.

I'll try to get my pictures uploaded tomorrow.
 
The deed is done!

I changed everything over. Started at 8pm and finished about 30 minutes ago. So, about 7 hours. I took several pics, and promise to post them tomorrow.

My remaining steps are to aquascape, put the doors on the stand, and figure out if I really have a massive micro bubble problem, or if I just need to wait for the skimmer to stabilize.

The overflow is suuuper quite. This thing is pushing a respectable amount of water (the Eheim 1262 with the head loss on the amount of 1.5" PVC that I used is estimated at ~750gph) and you just hear the trickle of the water going through the teeth.
 
Here are a few pics right after it was filled:

Bracing this plumbing to the stand wasn't too bad. My measurements left a small gap in the brace on the return plumbing, but a picee of cardboard saved the day!

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Re: 75 Gallon Build

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=12523035#post12523035 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by cardiffgiant
provided I don’t get called back out onto the road for work right away


Being a bank consultant that's probably not gonna happen soon.
 
Re: 75 Gallon Build

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=12523035#post12523035 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by cardiffgiant

Tanks:
I am in the process of upgrading to a 75G display with a 30L sump. The 75 will drain to the sump with a Calfo style overflow that has 3 drains. The sump will house the skimmer, return chamber, and refugium. The RDSB will still be an external vessel, and the canister filter will be removed.

I don't think an 8 gal sump is sufficient for a display tank of 75 gal
 
Re: Re: 75 Gallon Build

Re: Re: 75 Gallon Build

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=14548688#post14548688 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by reeferkeeper
Being a bank consultant that's probably not gonna happen soon.

Actually, I rushed to finish this up because I'm on the road next week ;)

Besides, I'm one of the good guys! We consult on balance sheet performance and deposit growth, (two things that banks need badly right now), and have nothing to do with lending.

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=14548710#post14548710 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by reeferkeeper
I don't think an 8 gal sump is sufficient for a display tank of 75 gal

LOL. I meant for L to mean long, not liter. Ended up going with the 29 gallon, pictured above.
 
Looks awesome Ben,

I am about to overhaul m 75 as well. A few questions for you. You are using an internal overflow box, Does it go all the way to the bottom of the tank? Where are your holes drilled? Are you currently only using one drain?

I keep looking at the pics trying to figure out your plumbing. I am looking for some advice in trying to set mine up. I am a total rookie that needs help.

Could you please descrine your drain/return/overflow box set up.

Amazing job!!
 
I've got a pic with the location of the holes that were drilled in the middle of hte first page (in between the other 50 pictures ;) ). I believe that mine are a few inches down and about 7 inches apart.

The overflow is an "Economy Calfo" overflow ;) For someone who is too frugal to go coast to coast. When I had mine done, it was a lot cheaper to cover 2/3 of the width. I believe its somewhere around 3.5" x "6" x 36".

The thread that I followed for the plumbing is here:
http://reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=1310585&highlight=silent+overflow

The stand thread that I used is here:
http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=1169964

Lot's of helpful replies in both threads.
 
Ben, nice build. I have been thinking of doing the same overflow style on my next tank. I understand the concept of the overflow plumbing, but do you think the middle drain is necessary? In your setup is all the water exiting through the right drain and the others are back up only?
 
I don't think it's necessary in the sense that you can successfully get water from a tank to a sump with only 1 drain. For this particular style, geared towards silence, minimal adjustments to the valves, and fail safe operation, I think it's necessary. I can't say that it's not possible to achieve all of those goals with only two drains.

What I've noticed so far is that all three drains are used at some point. When I shut down the return pump and start it back up, the closed channel takes about 10-15 seconds to establish a siphon. During that time, the open channel becomes overwhelmed and effluent comes out of the overflow channel (upside down elbow). Once the siphon is established in the closed channel, the open channel seems to always produce about half of the effluent of the open channel, and the overflow channel is dry.

I have both the open channel and the closed channel dialed back. If either are fully open, I get noise (gurgle from the open, sucking vortex from the closed). However, if one or both were fully open, the overflow channel may never be needed.

A couple of things that might reduce the need for the overflow channel:
-I haven't run my airline into the overflow box yet. When you do that, the open channel becomes a closed channel when the water reaches a high mark, and volume is increased.
-I use 1" 90 degree elbows. The building plan calls for 1.25" to 1" slip street sweeps with teeth cut into them. I haven't been able to find that type of elbow any where, but they are supposed to allow more flow through the open and closed channels without causing a noisy vortex.
 
Setup looks great. I planning on something nearly identical for a 75 gallon, but I think I will try to do an external overflow box.

Could you let us know what you did for lights? How many T5s, which kit, which bulbs and maybe a picture of how they are mounted?

Thanks!
 
I'll try to get a full tank shot with the new lights up there this weekend. I've also got the doors mounted. New shots will be up[... provided that I don't come home to find out that the cyano outbreak that my wife told me about on the phone is as bad as she described. Though, she said that she's getting a couple of buckets of RODI ready for my return... well, that's not a good sign.

I went with the tek 6x54 fixture and got the leg mounts. I went with 2 geismann actinic plus and 4 geismann aquablue plus.
 
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