--75g Barebottom/Starboard Reef Project--

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I wrote in your thread Marc that in my old setup I know that Phosphates were the main cause of my Algae. I am ready for battle this time:) I posted it in your thread.
 
I don't know what to try next to feed my Koran Tang. It doensn't like flake or pellets:( I also have given him that "gourmet" nori ROFL. He doesn't touch it.
 
Will a TLF reactor filled with their phosphate reducing media help control bubble algae to or just main forms of nussiance algae?
 
All types of Algae would be effected by lower or 0 phosphates to some degree.

I will keep you posted on how it works in my case. I would also try emerald crabs for your bubble algae.
 
Bubble algae, unlike most other algaes, prefers clean water. I suppose if you do have a PO4 problem, some PO4 remover "might" slow down the valonia but it won't stop it. Your best bet is manual removal or, even better, natural predators.
 
arconom, did I miss something? Did you get a new tang? I don't think I've ever heard of a Koran tang. Do you have a link or a pic? If it is new, it might just need a few days to settle in and get an appetite. The best food to start tangs on is nori. Don't be concerned if it doesn't take to it the first few days, it may take it that long to even find it. Once it is eating on the nori you can graduate to some frozen foods like brine and mysis. After that you can try flake, but some fish never will touch flake or pellets. I don't like flake or pellets personally because they are loaded in PO4 and a lot can go uneaten in the tank.
 
Any negative side effects to adding a phosphate removing media to your tank?

Any updated pics of your tank man? Makes me want to drill out my old 75 and set it up as another sps tank.
 
elephen said:
Any negative side effects to adding a phosphate removing media to your tank?
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Potentially yes. Do not use more than the recommended amount. And just as important, when you first fire it up, make sure you discard the first few gallons until it runs clear. Otherwise you could conceivably crash your tank.

Erik, I just got a couple of tangs too. I picked up a Hippo and a Kole. You know about the accident my YT had. Anyway, my YT NEVER touched nori on a clip. So with these new tangs I decided to try the 'rubberband method'. I band it securely to a rock and place it in the tank. It simulates more of a natural feeding action than from the clip. Worked from day one just perfect.

Give it a shot. Oh, I also feed my entire tank every other day, frozen mysis, brine, bloodworms, formula I, green marine algae (Hikari), cyclopeeze & oyster eggs.

Good luck with your new addition,
Russ
 
Well I ordered a TLF 150 Phosphate Reactor. I decided on trying out the ROWAphos. I ordered 500ML of the ROWA.

I also have been looking into buying a small Calcium Reactor Effuent chamber/Mini Reactor. If you have been following Marcs aka Melev thread we have talked alot about the pros of passing the effuent of a calcium reactor into a chamber where a phosphate binder is used.

In my old 75gal setup I knew the main issue were phosphates coming from my calcium reactor. I just never put 2 and 2 together.

I will be more careful this time around. I sent a E-mail to the maker of this unit. I will be buying it and give it a try:)

biophosreactor3.jpg


It really looks complicated but it's not. It has a place for a probe holder and the red line is the effuent line from a calcium reactor. The effuent floods the chamber and out pours Phophate free effuent. The media in this setup in this picture is Biophos, Alum base binder. Yes, Alum based binders have there flaws but the Low PH envirnment might allow you to have no negetive effects. Still reasearching,Marc and I are looking into the proper media.

The main issue now is deciding what Phosphate binding media Marc and I will use. Under the low PH conditions of the Effuent of a calcium reactor typical Phosban and other products have issues.

The Tank is doig beyond good. The Skimmer is doing better then I ever thought it would.

I also plan on setting up a QT tank for new Corals that I intend on buying. I will be buying Interceptor.
 
arconom, could you pm me his email? I would like to order one of those sometime soon.

I still have yet to believe 100% that low ph will not cause the Al binders to release Al. Regardless, my main concern would be.... What happens when your CO2 runs out while you are on vacation or the GFCI that your CO2 solenoid is on trips, or the solenoid trips for no reason? In any of these cases, the CO2 will turn off and the PH of the effluent will become the same as the tank PH. Until the problem is noticed, the effluent has been causing Al to be released to the tank. That is why I will most likely just stick with a GFO media.
 
Travis believe me I have no intentions on rushing into one type of media for this purpose.

Also did you see what Marc posted with Randy?

http://reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=717552&perpage=25&pagenumber=1

All of the scenarios you mentioned are problems that can happen. I haven't had anytime to find out more on this Biophos media.

Heres the site where he frequents:)

http://www.marshreef.com/modules.php?name=Forums&file=viewtopic&p=104253#104253

I sent a PM to Reefalot I haven't heard anything yet.
 
I have been following that thread that Marc started. Not sure I totally agree that low ph effluent will cause the GFO to dissolve either as Randy hypothesized. If it has worked this long on one of my idol's tanks (JBNY) than I'm not too worried about trying it on mine.

I will just have to track Kevin down on that forum when I'm ready to order. I bet he is getting plenty of PM's right now with the recent postings about his product.;)
 
He's gonna get rich! :D

As you pointed out, if there is a power outage and the CO2 turns off, we are still dealing with something that is dripping, not flowing at multiple gallons per hour. Power may be restored before the pH can ever rise high enough to make a difference. That is purely a guess because I don't watch how these numbers fluctuate in my own reactor and have no idea how long it lasts 'per session'. The CO2 clicks on and off all day & night, but I've never tried to figure out exactly how often that is exactly. When I'm around the tank, I probably hear 4 clicks in a day. And that is likely on - off - on - off. Not exact, I know. Who's got time to sit by the tank and track that kind of information?

When the power is off the Ca Reactor drips into the sump. I guess a really vigilant reef keeper would turn off their reactor at that point to avoid adding too much effluent to the sump and avoid dissolving GFO as well. I know I wouldn't have thought of it before this discussion occured.
 
Actually if you think about it, if the electric goes out, the calcium reactor regulater soleniod will stop pumping CO2.
 
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