900 gal setup help

[klviper]

Looking for ideas suggestions for a 900 gal setup. I currently have a scratched up 180 and a metal frame open top 360gal with a crack in it (crack will be patched). The 180 and 360 will be in the basement and the new 375 display will be on the first floor. Need thoughts on how you would setup this system (skimmer ect). Besides from the tanks I have a new Hammerhead pump for a return. The tank will have some corals but not alot of sps. Thanks for the help!

 

[ycnibrc]

well for that kind of volume you need a skimmer that can handle atleast 1000gal. So do your research on BK,H&S,Deltech,Reeflo,Euroreef or some type of monster DYI skimmer(volcano).
If I set it up I will run 2 skimmer 1 feed directly from the overlow and one feed from the sum.
As for flow 4x6201 tunze plus a supermod wavebox.

The hammerhead is fine for the return pump just make a manifold and tee it off to other equipment such as chiller,skimmer ect.

Need a good Cal reactor MTC,MRC,Deltech...ect
kalk reactor is optional you can add it later.
chiller minimum is 1 horse
some type of controller AC3,biomatrix(new on the market),aquatronica....ect

For light I will run 4x400 watt with mini lumenarc and 4X110 72''VHO actinic.


Well that will pretty much get you going and the adventure will begin.

 

[46bfinGA]

Ycnibrc, Whats a "supermod" Wavebox?

For a 375 display I dont think 6201 pumps would be needed. You could get by with 6101's. Especially if your not going to be keeping alot of SPS.

 

[tbone28]

Anthony, Anthony, Anthony, you and your supermod wavebox. Here we go again! :lol: You gotta buy him sushi for that secret. LOL

 

[ycnibrc]

haha big tank need supermod wavebox to make big wave....

 

[tbone28]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=11760845#post11760845 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by 46bfinGA
Ycnibrc, Whats a "supermod" Wavebox?

For a 375 display I dont think 6201 pumps would be needed. You could get by with 6101's. Especially if your not going to be keeping alot of SPS.

I think you should still go with the 6201's. You don't have to run them at 100%. Should you decide to go for more SPS later, you won't need to upgrade. I run (2) 6201's on my 180g, and don't think it's too much flow at all.

 

[ReefingBuddha]

you going to try and sell those things anthony... you've been marketing really well (j/k)

 

[tbone28]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=11762922#post11762922 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by thirschmann
you going to try and sell those things anthony... you've been marketing really well (j/k)

HaHa. that will be his 3rd business. Now, when he goes out on dates, his date will get free pizza, flowers, AND a supermod wavebox! He's a shoo-in for a 2nd date!

 

[ycnibrc]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=11760845#post11760845 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by 46bfinGA
Ycnibrc, Whats a "supermod" Wavebox?

For a 375 display I dont think 6201 pumps would be needed. You could get by with 6101's. Especially if your not going to be keeping alot of SPS.

If you have 1 frag of SPS in your tank you will eventually be bitten by the SPS bug and sooner than you think full blown SPS tank.

Like Tbone say and he knows a lot about reef tank set up. You can always dial down the flow rate on the 6201.
BTW Jonathan will release his Tsunami wavebox soon so stand by for that. If he can make it happen my supermod wavebox will just be a bubble compare to his wave. Haha you guys better do the mod soon otherwsie I will patent the supermod wavebox....

 

[tbone28]

^ Agreed. The SPS bug hits quick and hits hard! I actually want to add another Tunze to my setup. OooOOo, Tsunami wavebox!

 

[klviper]

Thanks for all the info!
ycnibrc , why would you run one skimmer from the sump and one from the tank. What's the advantages? just curious. I was thinking of going to a cl on the display are the tunze that much better? Thanks again.

 

[46bfinGA]

Tunze are alot better when you look at the GPH possible vs. Wattage consumed.

 

[46bfinGA]

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If you have 1 frag of SPS in your tank you will eventually be bitten by the SPS bug and sooner than you think full blown SPS tank.[/Quote]

I hear ya. I based my opinion on his remarks on what he was going to be keeping in the tank,not on what he may be keeping later on. 6201's would blow Softies off their rocks at 100%. I have 2-6101's in my 6' 125 and have to keep them all the way turned down and thats in a BB tank.

[QUOTE/]
Like Tbone say and he knows a lot about reef tank set up. You can always dial down the flow rate on the 6201.[/Quote]

The cost of the 6201's vs. the 6101's is what kept me from buying them. Plus Roger recommended the 6101's to me, so I went with his advice.


[QUOTE/]
BTW Jonathan will release his Tsunami wavebox soon so stand by for that. [/QUOTE]

Have a link to this or to your "Supermod" Wavebox?

 

[46bfinGA]

Also Im curious why a "Super" Wavebox is even needed in any situation? Are they not enough flow in the stock form? I plan on using two on my 600 built into my tank and from what Roger has been telling me they should be plenty of flow,and that my 4 -6101's may even be overkill.

 

[tbone28]

46bfinGA - The key with keeping softies in my tank is to place them properly. e.g. partially block the flow by placing the softies in the rock's crevices, etc. Mind you, even by doing that, they do get blown around quite a bit, but they are all doing well. I run my 6201's alternating between 30-100%.

Why do we need a supermod wavebox? Check out Anthony's thread. After you see his coral growth and color, you'll know why! :rollface:

 

[46bfinGA]

So the only difference with the "Supermod wavebox" is Jarhead put a 6201 in the wavebox instead of the 6261? Am I getting that right? How does that effect the pump in the long term. I was under the Impression the 6261 were designed specifically for the waveboxes so they could be pulsed on/off.

BTW sorry to hijack the thread. I guess this is relative since we are talking about flow in big tanks.

 

[tbone28]

Not sure what the longterm effects are. Let's wait for Anthony to chime in on this. I think Jar*Head helped him with that build, too. Hopefully he can add something.

 

[ycnibrc]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=11768141#post11768141 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by klviper
Thanks for all the info!
ycnibrc , why would you run one skimmer from the sump and one from the tank. What's the advantages? just curious. I was thinking of going to a cl on the display are the tunze that much better? Thanks again.

for me the best way to skim your water is directly plumb your over flow to your skimmer. That way all of the detritus,excess food and oil from the surface will get skim better than if you feed a pump to your skimmer. I feed my fish 3 to 4 times a day and I feed my corals every night so I need to make sure that I skim out all excess food otherwise phosphate and nitrate will rise. I have zeorock in the reactor to take care some of the phosphate and nitrate but I have to credit my skimmer for my crystal clear water.

 

[ycnibrc]

the pump in the orginal wavebox is a 6201 but with a different transformer so the out put is not equal to 6201 stream. I have a long tank so I need more power so I order my wavebox with the 6201 transformer to get more power. It's still pulse with the wavebox controler 6091. Jonathan will try with a 6301 since his tank is 1000gal but he will build a bigger box to house the 6301.

 

[tbone28]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=11775282#post11775282 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by ycnibrc
the pump in the orginal wavebox is a 6201 but with a different transformer so the out put is not equal to 6201 stream. I have a long tank so I need more power so I order my wavebox with the 6201 transformer to get more power. It's still pulse with the wavebox controler 6091. Jonathan will try with a 6301 since his tank is 1000gal but he will build a bigger box to house the 6301.

HaHa, secret's out! JK! Can't wait to see Jonathan's Tsunami wavebox. Anthony, is your wavebox visible? Or did you hide it behind something?

You feed your fish 3-4x/day? Do YOU work? :lol: