A ~19,000 Gallon Aquarium

is it just me or does the "tank" look small in the first pic? nice build nahham i cant wait for the finished product. do you think you can get this complete before the world ends in 2012? lol BTW i dont believe that :hmm3:
 
is it just me or does the "tank" look small in the first pic? nice build nahham i cant wait for the finished product. do you think you can get this complete before the world ends in 2012? lol BTW i dont believe that :hmm3:

It would suck if everything ends just when I start having fun with the tank. So I will choose not to believe this too :D
 
Minor Update:

I ordered tons of limestone for the aquarium: 50 tons of it. Not all of it is for the tank. I'm having trouble getting it here though. Contrary to what a lot of you might think, the problem is that I'm ordering only one truck-load and not more :D.

I was happy to read: "Despite the fact that there are several different types, almost every piece of live rock is fundamentally the same thing. It's all limestone that has been collected from various areas in the sea where loose chunks of rubble can be picked up. In most cases this limestone rubble accumulates in areas naturally, but in others it has been specifically placed somewhere with the intentions of collecting it later."

http://www.wetwebmedia.com/ca/volume_2/cav2i3/Live_Rock/live_rock.htm

I also added one item to my stock list:
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Arabian butterflyfish (Chaetodon melapterus)
 
That's a beautiful butterfly, but it does eat coral.

Just make sure the rock doesn't have rusty areas that would indicate it has iron or other metallic elements. It rarely does. Give it a power wash if you can to remove phosphate. Spray it with a weak acid (even vinegar) if you want to be really thorough. Phosphate is surface active and binds only at the surface of the rock. Acid removes/neutralizes it. rinse it well so the acid doesn't lower the PH.
 
That's a beautiful butterfly, but it does eat coral.

Just make sure the rock doesn't have rusty areas that would indicate it has iron or other metallic elements. It rarely does. Give it a power wash if you can to remove phosphate. Spray it with a weak acid (even vinegar) if you want to be really thorough. Phosphate is surface active and binds only at the surface of the rock. Acid removes/neutralizes it. rinse it well so the acid doesn't lower the PH.

I have a hose connected to one of my 8,000 GPH pumps and was planning to hose the living .. give it a good clean :)

I could also do the vinegar thing.

Here is a photo of the sample rock I saw. I talked to the guy about getting between 40 and 120 kg (88 and 264 lbs). I have a lot of manual labour for me and my poor friends to do :D

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Your limestone doesn't look very... "limie". You can test the rock by pouring acid (vinegar) on it and seeing if it fizzes. I think we went through this with the sand. Limestone from the sea is whiter and more chalky. This rock is probably limestone but it looks like granite in the pictures. Is it shiny or chalky. I think older deposits of limestone are dark gray and smooth like that. The high iron content may give you algae problems if that rusty colour is in fact rust.
 
Your limestone doesn't look very... "limie". You can test the rock by pouring acid (vinegar) on it and seeing if it fizzes. I think we went through this with the sand. Limestone from the sea is whiter and more chalky. This rock is probably limestone but it looks like granite in the pictures. Is it shiny or chalky. I think older deposits of limestone are dark gray and smooth like that. The high iron content may give you algae problems if that rusty colour is in fact rust.

Maybe submersing it in vinegar or acid for a couple of month will make it look more "limie"? :) The rock pile I choose was shiny/chalky, I hope this is what I end up getting.

OK I am getting confused regarding the fizzing thing. We did go through it with the sand, and I still haven't learned :(.

Some say it is a bad thing: "Pour concentrated white vinegar on various areas of the rock. If the vinegar bubbles, the rock has carbonate that will alter the water conditions of the aquarium and therefore is not safe for the average tropical fish." -- eHow

Others say it is a good thing: "Yes, that's a good thing. If it fizzes when it comes in contact with an acid (e.g. vinegar, hydrochloric acid, etc.), then it's the calcium carbonate (CaCO3) reacting with the acid to release carbon dioxide (CO2). Silica sand doesn't release CO2 because it's SiO2." -- Poster on this thread

I'm officially confused. I can drive for an 1hr to pour some vinegar on a rock, which will definitely make the guy think I'm out of my mind; he already does think I'm weird for wanting rock for an aquarium, but it won't be helpful if I don't know what it means.. :confused:
 
The article that talks about "an average aquarium" is in reference to a soft water, freshwater aquarium, not a marine aquarium. It's probably limestone, if they are using it for limestone construction. Just skip the rusty iron-rich rocks if that is in fact rust/staining. I have no idea how to test for iron... maybe you can lick it:) You're definitely too late if you don't want the rock guy to think you are weird, but I'n sure he won't stone you :)
 
Just a question in my ignorance, Nahham, but can't you just get reef rock directly from the sea in your surrounding area? That way there would be no question about the source, or whether this rock is "reef safe" or not.

Dave.M
 
Just a question in my ignorance, Nahham, but can't you just get reef rock directly from the sea in your surrounding area? That way there would be no question about the source, or whether this rock is "reef safe" or not.

Dave.M

I was thinking the same thing.
 
In most places it is illegal to collect rocks from the sea. The most common way of legally acquiring them is where areas are being dredged for a marina, dock etc. I agree, rock from the sea would be the best for a number of reasons.
 
The article that talks about "an average aquarium" is in reference to a soft water, freshwater aquarium, not a marine aquarium. It's probably limestone, if they are using it for limestone construction. Just skip the rusty iron-rich rocks if that is in fact rust/staining. I have no idea how to test for iron... maybe you can lick it:) You're definitely too late if you don't want the rock guy to think you are weird, but I'n sure he won't stone you :)

+1

Bubbling rocks = good for marine/alkaline environments but probably bad for most freshwater/acidic applications.

Personally, on another note, I prefer to use a diluted muriatic acid solution vs vinegar. The stronger acid works much quicker.
 
Got my mag-float 500 today (3 of them). Those things are huge:

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You think they look kinda normal..

mag-float2.jpg

And then you compare it with another 'thing'..

mag-float3.jpg

And notice that is separated by a piece of wood..

:)
 
Putting your Ipod beside a giant neodymium magnet is a bad idea :hmm4:

I hope you don't have a pacemaker :)
 
+1

Bubbling rocks = good for marine/alkaline environments but probably bad for most freshwater/acidic applications.

Personally, on another note, I prefer to use a diluted muriatic acid solution vs vinegar. The stronger acid works much quicker.

When I saw the "+1" I thought you meant it for the iron licking part :D
 
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