a couple questions about flukes

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tankmate1986

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Ok I have a hippo tang that I just found to have flukes. I did as much reading as I could and found some answers but not all the ones I need. I did a freshwater dip for 7 mins. Put him in a qt tank full of water from my dt. He's now sitting in the same corner since I put him in there. He seems to be breathing fine he lost his color but it came back over night and he's flapping his fins. He stopped eating I'm figuring because of the stress from the dip. It's now almost 24 hrs since I dipped. My questions are I have 2 clowns a unicorn tang a mandarin govt and a mono argentis in the dt am I going to have to qt them too. If so how do I qt the mandarin because he doesn't eat frozen. I've had him two years and can't get him to take it. And I have a huge population of mini feather dusters so to keep them I'm guessing I can't use prazi in the dt. No other fish are showing any signs of nething being wrong with them. Any and all help will be a huge help to me. Thanks in advance.
 
These are the really small ones that attach to the walls and such. I believe they are called spinoid worm or something of that sort. There's litterally hundreds if not thousands of them between my rock walls and sump/refugium.
 
That's the thing I know what to do as far as treating. I just don't know what to do about the goby. I'd like to treat the dt but I don't want to loose all the dusters. It would be easier to just treat the tank because its next to impossible to net the fish with my rockwork.
 
tankmate1986 said:
These are the really small ones that attach to the walls and such. I believe they are called spinoid worm or something of that sort. There's litterally hundreds if not thousands of them between my rock walls and sump/refugium.
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You're in a real bind. Any fish that was in the same tank as the Hippo is now likely infected. But treating the DT with Prazi will kill most of your feather dusters; if they number into the thousands the die-off could cause an ammonia spike. So IMO, your best option would be to QT all the fish, treat with Prazi and leave your DT fallow (I guess) for 10+ weeks.
 
I have many of the small red and white feather dusters, more/less hitch hikers, and I just treated prazi a 3 days ago (Just as a hopeful solution to an unknown possible parasite) and figured those would be goners. They are all still alive. I dont know if it takes them more time to die or not. But maybe these smaller types are more tolerant than the big feather dusters? IDK
 
That's what I'm afraid of the ammonia spike if they do die off. I only have a 10 gal qt tank and trying to put a 6 in uni tang and 2 clowns and a mandarin and a mono and a hippo in there is pretty much asking for them to die. I guess I'm going to have to take the chance in the dt and just keep doing regular water changes.
 
Sry I meant mandarin. That's a good idea but noone in my area sells it and I can't wait to order. It I have to get this started asap. I had a very close call with my hippo I don't want the same for any others. I wo.Der if I take an established rock from my tank dt and put it in my qt if it would work as far as transferring the pods for the mandarin. My fear with that is causing another cycle in the qt tank.
 
tankmate1986 said:
Sry I meant mandarin. That's a good idea but noone in my area sells it and I can't wait to order. It I have to get this started asap. I had a very close call with my hippo I don't want the same for any others. I wo.Der if I take an established rock from my tank dt and put it in my qt if it would work as far as transferring the pods for the mandarin. My fear with that is causing another cycle in the qt tank.
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I've read conflicting anecdotal accounts about the impact Prazi has on pods. But it might be worth a shot. Also, some people claim to have "trained" their mandarin to eat Hikari Marine S pellets and/or New Life Spectrum .5mm pellets. I plan on giving both a try soon.
 
m not trying to be difficult here in any way and appreciate all thoughts and advice but when I first got the mandarin I tried everything and he just wanted no part of anything other than live. This is my biggest dilemma right now. If it wasn't for the mandarin I would just qt the livestock and treat in qt and run fallow in dt. This one fish is the only thing stopping me from moving forward. Ive had it for two years now and have been able to keep him alive which I find amazing seeing as how I didn't think he'd make it 6 months because of the food issue. I really don't want to loose him now.
 
So far the hippos doing better in qt. I'm still looking for prazi. Once I get to ill keep everyone posted on how it works out for me.
 
Update just called every fish and pet store in the area only one carries prazi and he's fresh out. Had to order it from online to get a bottle and it won't be here for 5 days. When it rains it pours.
 
tankmate1986 said:
Update just called every fish and pet store in the area only one carries prazi and he's fresh out. Had to order it from online to get a bottle and it won't be here for 5 days. When it rains it pours.
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Fortunately, flukes is not (usually) a fast killer. Some fish live with it for months. You can always do another f/w dip to provide some temporary relief. I wouldn't do it for 7 mins again though; 3-4 mins will suffice.
 
5 to 10 minutes is required for a fresh water dip. When running a tank fallow for flukes, 2 weeks is sufficient.


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Well I ordered some prazi online it'll be here tues or wed. I'm going to treat the dt and the qt with it. The hippo is eating again and finally swimming around so thats probably a good sign. He's in the qt and I think I'm going to keep him there for now until he fully recovers. But in the past two days he's made a huge turnaround. I do have a question about the qt. I have a hob filter and have a filter with carbon in it and a sponge it it too. Ive been cleaning the filters with the water from the water changes from the qt so it doesn't loose the natural filter. Its a ten gal tank. I've been doing about a gal and a half water change everyday to avoid any buildup of ammonia or nitrates. Is this ok or should I cut back on the water changes. I've only been doing this because I don't have an air stone and don't want the water to loose its o2.
 
Mrscribbled said:
5 to 10 minutes is required for a fresh water dip. When running a tank fallow for flukes, 2 weeks is sufficient.


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Really!! That is good to hear. I've been told 8-10 weeks fallow. I know that is the time frame for ich.
 
Mrscribbled said:
5 to 10 minutes is required for a fresh water dip. When running a tank fallow for flukes, 2 weeks is sufficient.
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Not trying to pick a fight, but how did you determine that 2 weeks fallow is sufficient for flukes? I've seen a wide range suggested (anywhere from 4-12 weeks), but never as low as 2.

As for the f/w dip, I can only speak from personal experience. At 2-3 mins, the flukes usually start falling out. At 4 mins it's over. Anything north of 5 mins and the fish starts looking kinda bad. And I'm very careful to always aerate the water, match temp/pH, etc.
 
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