A Great Article of why you should dip all incoming corals

When I went shopping for the Bayer, I almost bought the one for fruit trees. I ended up choosing the soil and turf one because it was the one recommended in the linked thread above at the time I had read it. They had specifically recommended getting a product with imadachlorpid in it.

I might run out this week and pick up some Bayer that contains imadachlorpid but not the cyfluthrin. I'm a bit hesitant to get the fruit tree type, because the label says it's rainproof. The 12 month tree and shrub version does not say it's rainproof, and only contains imadachlorpid. It is, however, stronger than what Jesse and I are using now, so if I decide to get that product, I'd have to sit down and determine the equivalent dosage for dipping.

We just got some rehab frags from a friend this weekend. We did dip them with the Bayer concentrate we have, but they're still in isolation for now. I'd be interested in dipping these corals, or others, (if needed in both cases), with a product just containing imadachlorpid, and comparing the results. And watching the tank, of course. All of these frags are in a separate system from our main tanks, so it should be a bit easier to monitor.

I certainly don't blame you for not wanting to try this method at the time. I would not want to risk your beautiful reef. :inlove: I wouldn't have taken the risk myself, except that one of my favorite LPS corals (my frogspawn that I had rehabbed from a completely bleached state) was being pestered by little white bugs, causing it to lose color and not fully extend. After doing some research, those white bugs seemed to be a form of "red" bug that only pestered frogspawn corals. Then found the thread about using Bayer as a dip. Thought about it for a few weeks, my coral was continuing to go downhill, so I figured I'd try it, as I don't have interceptor (and, as you stated, they're not longer making it).

I'm more than willing to document the process and comparison between products, and see what happens. If it ends up being a safe and less expensive way to dip corals, it'll be worth it. :thumbsup:
 
The thing about imadachlorpid is that the other Bayer product (the home product with germ killer) contains none . The common ingredient for the two products being used and reported out on the thread is the cyfluthrin. I hope the imadachlorpid works without the cyfluthrin ; it seems much safer since we don't keep bees in the tank..

Thanks for your reports.

The cyfluthrin might be ok with careful rinsing and limited use but I'm not sure. There are a couple of issues for tank animals noted in the middle of the thread but maybe careful controls were not imposed.

For all the caveats ,the Bayer products do seem to get lethal results for pests without harming corals. It's just residue and it's effect on other animals , I'm worried about.

It might be a great find particularly with note of increasing difficulty in access to interceptor (milibemycin oxime) . Also ity seems to have aa broad potential with aefw as well as red bugs et alia.
There is one other med being used with mixed results ,Ivermectin but it's about $100 for a 50ml bottle.

I wonder if H202 (hydrogen peroxide) dips would have much effect on red bugs or aefw at doses harmless to the coral. It's a strong oxidant, and does agreat job on red turf algae and does cause many critters to fall off treated corals. Kills mini serpent stars quickly. No residue just water and extra oxygen.

Does anyone have success against aefw with flat worm exit dips?
 
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