A Reef Tank in the Desert - +/- 1,400 gallon system

Great heads up BigOldReef, never knew that was possible!

Anyway, the build is coming along great! I'm excited to see that thing with some fish in it, those Gem Tangs will be beautiful! Cheers!
 
So Michael was able to get a good deal on a Dialyseas. The prior owner primarily used it for automatic water changes but it does so much more! The unit appears to be in very good shape.

According to the companies website, these are the key benefits of the system:

1) REMOVES WASTE WHILE MINIMIZING ORIGINAL WATER AND SALT LOSS
2) DIALYSEAS MAKES AND ADDS NEW DEIONIZED WATER AUTOMATICALLY WITH "0" PHOSPHATES
3) REMOVES ALL CONTAMINANTS NOT JUST NITRATE
4) DOES NOT USE OR RELY ON ANY FORM OF BACTERIA TO BREAK DOWN WASTE
5) DOES NOT ERADICATE PLANKTON IN REEF AQUARIUMS
6) ELIMINATES EUTROPHICATION
7) ULTRA RELIABLE, ULTRA SAFE, IMMEDIATELY EFFECTIVE
8) NEVER CHANGE WATER AGAIN DIALYSEAS DOES IT AUTOMATICALLY
9) CONSISTENT HIGH AQUARIUM WATER QUALITY AND TOP OF WATER QUALITY
10) INCREASE AQUARIUM BIOLOAD UP TO FOUR TIMES
11) STABILIZES ALKALINITY THEREFORE STABILIZES PH
12) CONTINUOUS SUPPLY OF CALCIUM AND OTHER TRACE ELEMENTS
13) REDUCES AQUARIUM MAINTENANCE DRASTICALLY
14) REDUCES STRESS ON ALL LIFE FORMS EXCEPT PARASITES IT KILLS THEM
15) AUTOMATICALLY TOPS OFF AQUARIUM WITH R.O.D.I WATER AND THEN ADDS THE PROPER AMOUNT OF DISSOLVED SALT
16) LOCAL AND REMOTE MONITORING AND CONTROL OF ALL MACHINE PARAMETERS
17) EASILY MAINTAINED
18) USE ANY POWDERED SALT YOU LIKE

Has anyone used on of the Dialyseas units before? I currently have a Reefkeeper monitoring unit which I will be installing on the tank so I am certain there will be some redundancy. I figure redundancy on a tank of this size will give me more of a checks and balance system.

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Dan, thanks for refering me to your build thread, it has been wonderful to read.
I have had my Dialyseas unit for seven years. It was on my previous 120gal for a year before I upgraded to my present 427 gal. It has definitely spoiled me. One piece of advice I can give you is to watch your alk should you change the brand of salt you use. Since the water is constantly changed, the alk will slowly shift if you switch brands. It can take you by surprise.
The initial setup takes some time, but I think you will love it.

Thank you reefkeeper2! I really appreciate your advise and comments. After viewing your build thread and the Youtube videos, I can see why you speak so highly of the Dialyseas. I am sure that I will have lots of questions for you once I get this setup. I am hoping for this evening!
 
Dan,

I have a friend who store water 50g at a time for weekly water changes. Once a week he adds salts, then within an hour dumps the salt water into the system, and then fills the storage tank back up with RO. The RO water was kept circulated and heated.

Well about a year ago his tank started to go downhill. Not only was he slowly losing established corals and established fish. But all new fish added to the system were dead within 24 hours. Corals were STN'ing at a very very slow rate -- Months and months to take out a small colony.

We checked for bug and parasites. We did massive water changes. We changed RO cartridges. Tested everything and couldn't find an issue.

We found the corals actually were doing worse after a water change.

So, there is a company close to me who supplies me with my RO system needs and they design high end water purification systems.... For the likes of NASA.

They walked me through numerous steps which we had taken, and then came up with a bacterial disease that can form in static water. So we did a Petri dish test and grew out all kinds of bacteria. Came back that the bacteria was toxic to fish, and was formed in the fresh water storage barrel. Adding the salt didn't knock the bacteria out, and in fact added to the toxicity of it.

They recommened UV or Ozone for the water barrel. We opted and put on a small Aqua UV unit on the circulation pump. Did a water change and Voila the tank is a success once again.

This was on a 225 display tank with 300+ gallons of sump and changing 50g a week, plus a couple of liters of carbon a week and running RowaPhos.

Since you are plumbing the Mag pump in to circulate consider adding a UV as well. Especially since your water may be standing for long periods of time due to the Dialyseas unit.

Dave

Thanks Dave!

That is a great suggestion! I will discuss this with Michael and make sure we plan on adding UV to the storage tanks!

Thanks again!
 
More tanks plumbed

More tanks plumbed

So Rich and Michael were here today plumbing the two 75 gallon and 90 gallon tanks; connecting them to the main display.

As always, I bought way too many fittings at the Home Depot. The good news at least, is that all the extras can be returned.

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As mentioned in a previous post, the 90 gallon tank will house all of my live rock, outside of the rock in my main display. While connected to the 75 gallon aquariums, one or both can be disconnected from the main display (turn of a ball valve) and used as a QT or hospital tank. I will have two canister filters plumbed and ready to be used in this case. Concern was mentioned in previous posts about the use of QT tanks and then reconnecting to the main display. I am not the slightest bit concerned. The tanks would be completely drained, cleaned and refilled with fresh saltwater prior to reconnecting to the main display.

These three tanks are connected to my sump via a Mag Drive 18 Pump (1,800 gallons per hour). The ball valves on each tank needed to be turned down a notch to prevent any spillage or overflow. The return (which will be screened) will dump into a filter sock to capture any critters that I might not have removed from the live rock.

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Tomorrow Michael and Rich will be back to plumb the Deltec Protein Skimmer, UV Sterilizer and hopefully the refugium. We are having a thicker piece of glass made for the 46 gallon bow-front that will be used as the refugium. Two pieces of glass were broken trying to drill for the bulkhead fittings.
 
Dan,

I don't know if in any of our messages we spoke about Ozone, and I don't want to de-rail your thread. So, if we haven't, shoot me a PM to talk about Ozone..... I love the stuff :)

Dave
 
Dan,

I don't know if in any of our messages we spoke about Ozone, and I don't want to de-rail your thread. So, if we haven't, shoot me a PM to talk about Ozone..... I love the stuff :)

Dave

Hey Dave. I definitely will be considering Ozone. I want to first see how everything settles. I did go ahead and just ordered a 3' reactor for a fluidized sand filter.

Thanks for thinking of me!
 
A BIG Surprise - Flat Worms!

A BIG Surprise - Flat Worms!

This took me by surprise last night. While Michael and Rich were over working on the plumbing for the Fish Room, Michael noticed small flatworms on the glass.

But here is the thing, only two things have been placed in the tank:

1) The Dry Pukani Rock Towers
2) The CaribSea live Reef Sand

I can only assume that the flatworms are from the live reef sand. The towers were made out of dry rock and they were out in the sun for several days prior to being cured. The live sand is just that, Live Sand full of all sorts of organisms.

We don't think that the flatworms are AEFW or planaria. Michael thinks they are a more common type that don't multiply like crazy. I am not going to take any chances. We are going to use Flatworm Exit in the tank and although I was not going to place any fish in the tank until after we returned from Europe, I am going to put in a mated pair of Six Line Wrasses. I figure that they will eat them all up!
 
QT tower looks good, I like it. I would have a good sized UV plumbed on the return from the QT system to help reduce anything unwanted from ending up in the main display or even in the water column. For a tank this large I agree with adding Ozone to the skimmer.
Sixlines are great at eating flatworms. I dont think 2 little sixlines will be bad to put into a new system this large.
 
QT tower looks good, I like it. I would have a good sized UV plumbed on the return from the QT system to help reduce anything unwanted from ending up in the main display or even in the water column. For a tank this large I agree with adding Ozone to the skimmer.
Sixlines are great at eating flatworms. I dont think 2 little sixlines will be bad to put into a new system this large.

Thanks allsps40. I have the UV being plumbed on Friday!

I am hoping that SEA was able to get me a mated pair of sixlines. I should know on Friday.
 
So Michael was able to get a good deal on a Dialyseas. The prior owner primarily used it for automatic water changes but it does so much more! The unit appears to be in very good shape.

According to the companies website, these are the key benefits of the system:

1) REMOVES WASTE WHILE MINIMIZING ORIGINAL WATER AND SALT LOSS
2) DIALYSEAS MAKES AND ADDS NEW DEIONIZED WATER AUTOMATICALLY WITH "0" PHOSPHATES
3) REMOVES ALL CONTAMINANTS NOT JUST NITRATE
4) DOES NOT USE OR RELY ON ANY FORM OF BACTERIA TO BREAK DOWN WASTE
5) DOES NOT ERADICATE PLANKTON IN REEF AQUARIUMS
6) ELIMINATES EUTROPHICATION
7) ULTRA RELIABLE, ULTRA SAFE, IMMEDIATELY EFFECTIVE
8) NEVER CHANGE WATER AGAIN DIALYSEAS DOES IT AUTOMATICALLY
9) CONSISTENT HIGH AQUARIUM WATER QUALITY AND TOP OF WATER QUALITY
10) INCREASE AQUARIUM BIOLOAD UP TO FOUR TIMES
11) STABILIZES ALKALINITY THEREFORE STABILIZES PH
12) CONTINUOUS SUPPLY OF CALCIUM AND OTHER TRACE ELEMENTS
13) REDUCES AQUARIUM MAINTENANCE DRASTICALLY
14) REDUCES STRESS ON ALL LIFE FORMS EXCEPT PARASITES IT KILLS THEM
15) AUTOMATICALLY TOPS OFF AQUARIUM WITH R.O.D.I WATER AND THEN ADDS THE PROPER AMOUNT OF DISSOLVED SALT
16) LOCAL AND REMOTE MONITORING AND CONTROL OF ALL MACHINE PARAMETERS
17) EASILY MAINTAINED
18) USE ANY POWDERED SALT YOU LIKE

Has anyone used on of the Dialyseas units before? I currently have a Reefkeeper monitoring unit which I will be installing on the tank so I am certain there will be some redundancy. I figure redundancy on a tank of this size will give me more of a checks and balance system.

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Dan what a build you are embarking on. It looks awesome. I wish I had the room for that size of a tank, instead I have to settle for a 240 which I am currently in the process of setting up now.

I too just bought a dialyseas... started it last night and so far so good. It's really not that bad to set up. If you need any help, just shoot me a PM.

cheers
Brett
 
Dan what a build you are embarking on. It looks awesome. I wish I had the room for that size of a tank, instead I have to settle for a 240 which I am currently in the process of setting up now.

I too just bought a dialyseas... started it last night and so far so good. It's really not that bad to set up. If you need any help, just shoot me a PM.

cheers
Brett

Thanks Brett! I am sure I will have plenty of questions!!!

I am taking work off tomorrow to finish the plumbing and to install the Dialyseas. At first, I will be using it primarily for auto top-off and for monitoring everything. When we return from summer vacation, I will experiment with the auto saltwater change feature.

I am glad to hear that it is not too difficult to setup. Good luck with your build!

Dan
 
Which UV unit are you going with?

Hi Geaux xman! I am actually going with a few. I am sticking with Emperor Aquatics Smart High-Output UV Light Sterilizers. I have a smaller 50 watt currently on my mixed reef which I am very happy with.

I will be installing it on the new system, catching the flow from my 90 gallon live rock tank. I have a new 120 watt UV Sterilizer that will be installed just above my sump and fed with a mag drive.
 
Great build and I admire your attention to detail. There are so many opinions on using a UV. Are you worried about losing your copepod population or is there a secret on that.\? I want to add one to my system.
 
Great build and I admire your attention to detail. There are so many opinions on using a UV. Are you worried about losing your copepod population or is there a secret on that.\? I want to add one to my system.

Thanks Wayne!

I have been running UV on my 150 gallon for a while now and haven't had any issues with pods. In fact, my tank is probably a pod magnet! I have kept a couple mandarins for over a year now who just feast on the pods. They thrive in my sump (my chaeto is full of them) and rock.

It really depends on the flow that you are putting through the UV canister. Higher flow will just kill algae and bacteria. If you dial the flow down real low, you'll kill parasites such as Ich and other Protozoan parasites. And I am sure pods...

Hope that helps clarify things!
 
Thanks Wayne!

I have been running UV on my 150 gallon for a while now and haven't had any issues with pods. In fact, my tank is probably a pod magnet! I have kept a couple mandarins for over a year now who just feast on the pods. They thrive in my sump (my chaeto is full of them) and rock.

It really depends on the flow that you are putting through the UV canister. Higher flow will just kill algae and bacteria. If you dial the flow down real low, you'll kill parasites such as Ich and other Protozoan parasites. And I am sure pods...

Hope that helps clarify things!

aqua uv does a pretty good job explaining what effects certain uv watt and gph will have on the water.

pictures!! please update us!
 
I can not wait to see this tank complete and up and running.. I would love to have something like this. Im definitely jealous.
 
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