About skimmers: y/n/maybe? FYI And they aren't your swimming pool skimmer...

Sk8r

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A skimmer produces skimmate, a brownish watery to dark murky yuck that otherwise is dissolved in your water. It does this by frothing the water, and the more efficient skimmers churn the water into a foam that would stand like meringue in a cup. Do you want this stuff gone? Well, lps and soft coral will consume a bit of it. But unless you have a packed reef, their usage can't compete with a skimmer. And, catch-22, you can't grow a packed reef very well without one.
If you have a nitrate problem that won't go away, a better skimmer may be your answer. It does help. After a power-outage and a nitrate reading at the top of the charts in my 102 gallon tank, that water changes, more rock, carbon dosing, and NoPoX couldn't fix, a far better skimmer knocked it down below 10 in a matter of days.
Most every tank at some point battles cyano, or has something you need to uptake (as you do the dieoff during a lights-out to kill cyano) ---and a skimmer is how you do this. Water changes are also helpful, in that they dilute your problem with more water; but your skimmer is the best help---it's processing ALL your water to get rid of the gunk.

A skimmer also helps oxygenate your tank, and the better it is, the more of that it does.

Is it a natural process? Yes. It's what the ocean waves do on the beaches of the world: seafoam is skimmate. A little more poetic, maybe. But it is. It's collected amino acids from fish poo and dead things.

There are 3 principle types of skimmers: 1- a bubbler in which air is sucked into water flow to cause some skimmate production. 2. better: a 'venturi' type that injects a lot more air 3. best: a 'cone' type skimmer that produces a thick froth that would stay foam if you took up a spoonful of it.

A brand new skimmer in a brand new tank isn't going to do a thing---because, first, it takes a week or so of running to 'break in' the skimmer, ie, to get rid of the manufacturing oils on the plastic (vinegar wipedown helps) ; and secondly because your tank isn't dirty enough yet. But over time, it will produce all the nasty gunk you could want.

There are skimmers that sit outside the sump: some of these spit water---a lot of it---during a power glitch and restart. An in-sump skimmer doesn't damage things: if it overflows---gunk lands back in the sump, but at least not on your floor. HOWEVER *water depth* in the sump affects skimmer operation. you may need a platform under yours to achieve the recommended depth: consult your instructions for that model (online manuals).
Hang-on-back skimmers work---but tend to be weak compared to what you can get for an in-sump model.
Then there are real monsters, skimmers designed for a mega-tank, that are about the size of a dining chair. Pricey? Yes.
Can you skim too much? Not easily. Or cheaply. But remember corals of certain types do like 'richer' water.
AND...unhappily...some manufacturers do not give a realistic report on the size of tank their skimmer will handle, so that the rule tends to be---buy twice the skimmer they claim will do. It's a highly difficult rating to give accurately in the first place, since an sps reef differs a lot from a softie reef's needs in the same size tank.
The rule tends to be that the better skimmers ARE expensive, really expensive. Like lights. With softies you don't need so much; with stony, you need more; and with sps you need the upper end.

Hope that helps clarify.
 
speaking of skimmers and good info BTW...

I have a canister and hob...Going to go with hob skimmer to replace my canister, no sump, and am always concerned about the darn thing bubbling over onto my floors. It seems many people have trouble dialing these things in...I think I may have a fix to that...not a fix but more of redundancy in case something like this would happen...Going to manufacture a funnel to put under the skimmer, which would drain into a 5 gallon bucket. Iam figuring a skimmer can only pull in so much water...I have a 60 gallon...then more redundacy, my apex jr module will have one of the leak detectors in that bucket in the event it overflows, it will shut down...and even more redundacy, I have an old ipod going to be pointing down at my equipment to keep an eye should I be away to identify the problem and take necessary measures to shut down the equipment thats causing the problem via the apex...the jr alarm will alert me to whats leaking and I can confirm it with my old beat up ipod when away.

I have mahogany hardwood flooring and no way do I want water from my skimmer, even a little, on the floor...The tank is gonna have to bust out of the seams for me to have a bad problem.
 
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That's a good idea. These out-of-sump skimmers can be chancy. I've had both an AquaC and a Coralife belch water like crazy. And keeping them producing 'dry-ish' rather than superwatery skimmate (the dialing-in) will protect you against overflow of the cup itself. You get more time to check on it, where a misbehaving one set too watery can overflow in a very short time. My present skimmer is a cone type EShopps, which is generally well-behaved, but can overflow the cup. It's difficult to leave a really efficient skimmer alone and unchecked for too many days.
 
It is a point too that if you go on longish vacations and do not have a tanksitter willing to scrub out a reeking collection cup, you may find it okay to turn your skimmer off for a week (it'll catch up) or---not a bad thing to save that cranky old slow skimmer!!!---install a real low-grade skimmer for the duration of the vacation so you might come back to a full collection cup but not one that has changed the salt balance of your tank by pulling so very much water into a secondary drain jar (some rigs have these connected by a small hose) that your autotopoff has been pouring more and more freshwater into your tank!

Skimmers are wonderful until they pull a trick like that!
 
Is it possible to set the skimmer to run for a set interval? For example, I can set my timer to turn the skimmer on for 2 hours and off for an hour.
 
No, not really: some treated that way will flood your house with a major spit-fest; and the skimmers really run 24/7/365. Their pump is quite small.
 
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