add fish in which order?

[cmsurfr22]

i have a 210 gallon AGA RR aquarium that's been running for 4 months. i have a custom sump with an aqua c ev-240. i also have a fuge with a 4" sand bed and chaeto. i have 3" sand bed in the display tank with 250 lbs of LR.

i currently have:

1 clarkii clown
1 pacific blue tang
1 blue/green chromi

i'm thinking of getting the following livestock:

2 tiger tail cucumbers
1 fire shrimp
1 skunk cleaner shrimp
4 blue/green chromis
2 orange spot diamond gobies (mated pair)
1 powder blue tang
3 yellow tangs
1 blonde naso tang
1 flame angle

i plan on ordering online from vivid aquariums. i have a 30 gallon QT tank setup that's been running for two weeks and has 0 nitrites and 0 nitrates. it has a fluval canister filter and i have an extra basket of bio media that's been in my sump for two weeks as well. i'd like to minimize the amount of times i have to order from online.

do you think the tang that i have and the tangs i want to get will all get along?

what order would you get everything?

do i have to QT the shrimp and the cucumber? if so what do i feed the cucumber?

if i want the gobies to sift my sand what do i feed them when they are in the QT without sand?

 

[Fountainhead]

Six tangs in a 210? I don't carry a badge or anything, but that seems like 3 or 4 too many.

I wouldn't quarantine the shrimp or the cucumber, but plan on acclimating over a long (3+ hour) period. Shrimp especially are very sensitive to changes, and you wouldn't be the first to add shrimp and have them dive into the rocks, never to be seen again.

I've added two Gobies. A diamond goby a couple of years ago (who died after 1 1/2 years) and a shrimp goby just recently. I didn't quarantine either one, as I thought the lack of a sand bed would be stressful for them. I have no idea whether that's a legitimate concern or not, but I got away with it both times.

Four months isn't very long. I'd add these items slowly, over several months.

 

[scarter]

add the yellow then the flame and the powder blue. research the flame and esp the powder blue before you buy. if you add the powder blue first, you wont have to worry about haveing to many tangs in there

 

[scarter]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=8078152#post8078152 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Fountainhead
Six tangs in a 210? I don't carry a badge or anything, but that seems like 3 or 4 too many.

he said that he allready has the pacific, so that would make 7.
im gettin outta here before the 5-OH show up....

 

[affan]

Re: add fish in which order?

In the order in which you recieve them :lol:

 

[cmsurfr22]

what if i were to go with 4 tangs in a 210, is that still too many?

1 pacific blue
1 powder blue
1 yellow
1 blonde naso

 

[scarter]

research that powder blue before you buy it.

 

[cmsurfr22]

ok after some debating i think i'm not going to get the powder blue tang...

so this is what i'm thinking of ordering:

1 fire shrimp
1 skunk cleaner shrimp
1 tiger tail cucumber
2 orange spot diamond gobies
1 blond naso tang
1 yellow tang
2 blue/green chromis
3 fighting conchs

i'm not going to QT the shrimp, cucumber, conchs, or gobies.

do you think that i can QT the naso, yellow and two blue/green chromis in my 30 gallon QT setup?

how often should i do water changes?
should i run hypo salinity?

 

[Fountainhead]

I'm no expert, but I'm under the impression that Tangs of similar shape may not get on well together. I might be inclined to worry about the Naso and the Pacific Blue together, but maybe a 210 is big enough to accomodate them both.

No way I'd have all those fish in a quarantine tank together. Maybe I'm overly cautions, but I only add fish one at a time (the chromis count as one) with at least 30 days between additions. That's just me maybe. Still, that's a lot of fish for a 30 gallon quarantine tank. The naso alone might be too much for that size tank.

Just my opinion.

 

[Sk8r]

The inverts can go in all at once.

With fish, the most aggro should go always in last, and AFTER his potential victim has got a firm territory.

 

[cmsurfr22]

1 fire shrimp
1 skunk cleaner shrimp
1 tiger tail cucumber
2 orange spot diamond gobies
1 blond naso tang
2 blue/green chromis
7 fighting conchs

i think i'm going to go with this.....that way it's only one tang and 2 small chromis. i'll get the yellow tang last.

I've red people were sucessful in keeping blonde naso tang and pacific blue tang together. i was under the impression it was tangs of simlary family/genus or something like that?

 

[Holmie_D_Klown]

That's a big increase in your bioload all at once. In a 210, you might be OK but I really couldn't tell you for sure...

Your inverts you can add all at once first. Then the gobies - chromis - tang.

BTW, a pacific blue and a powder will get along together if the powder is smaller and the right temperment. The advantage of a LFS is you can see just how agressive your powder blue is with other fish. It can range from "maniac" to "just slightly neurotic".

 

[scarter]

the pacific and naso should get on fine. the list looks good to me